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Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by gusgus01 »

valcker wrote: post #357
illiac786 wrote: post #351

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That made me smile. I always felt people in Paris are so unfriendly while in New-York I felt almost aggressed by too much friendliness: Never had so many people asking how my day was going…

Did they really care about your day though? I feel that in France this type of conversation is rare but much more genuine and not a part of a “service”.

I can't comment for anyone else other than me of course, but as a person in NY and who has worked in a customer service job, I do care. I wouldn't ask if I didn't.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by goldenarm »

rayiner wrote: post #326
goldenarm wrote: post #20

I moved from LA to Paris, my mental and physical health improved dramatically. I don't even take the subway, walking and biking are enough where I live. Hopefully we can reach the comfort of dutch cities within a decade.

How many kids do you have? How comfortable is the downtown core for families with 2-3 kids?

I don't have kids yet, but some arrondissements are very family friendly, some are not

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by goldenarm »

pkulak wrote: post #284
goldenarm wrote: post #20

I moved from LA to Paris, my mental and physical health improved dramatically. I don't even take the subway, walking and biking are enough where I live. Hopefully we can reach the comfort of dutch cities within a decade.

How's your French? Sounds like a flippant question, but I hear Parisians are not that... tolerant of even bad French speakers, let alone non-speakers. That stereotype has kept me from visiting, let alone living there, despite it probably being my dream city in every other respect. I'm in my mid 40s, and learning a new (spoken) language has become extremely difficult. I spent 2 years trying to learn German a while bac…

I'm french, but I have a dozen of friends here that don't speak English and have an active social circle. In some streets of Le Marais you can hear more English than french

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by kranke155 »

thrance wrote: post #249
gus_massa wrote: post #158

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> Parisians never go out and vote, and then after they complain. Wikipedia says that 70% of the people voted. Is it mandatory there? Here in Argentina it's mandatory, but weakly enforced. We get also a 70% of people voting. Anyway, the big problem are bubbles, probably all the friends of the guy don't like the current mayor and complain.

It's not mandatory. Hidalgo got reelected because people like her, the media is giving too much voice to the pro-cars when 70% of Parisians never drive in the city.

Or the article is just paid propaganda against a popular leader.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by bluGill »

input_sh wrote: post #282
bluGill wrote: post #260

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You miss the larger point not mentioned: all those motorists will be mad and looking to vote for someone next election that will undo it all.

Your job in any political office is not to leave everything as-is and to cement yourself into that position, but to make marginal improvements, even if doing so costs you the next elections or inconveniences people (hopefully only temporarily). Most of those marginal improvements can only be seen as something positive in retrospective, not while they're being made. While they're being made, they'll always be unpopula…

in the ideal world maybe - but we don't live in the ideal world: most are trying to get re-elected, or elected to a higher office now that they have experience.

and even in the ideal world a great leader can do more in the next term if they get relected.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by bluGill »

alamortsubite wrote: post #290
bluGill wrote: post #258

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car centric areas put their front door far from anyplace a but can easilly get. Either the but slows everyone else down because it is going in and out of all these parking lots and cul-de-sacs, or the walk from the but stop to where you are going is already your entire travel budget.

I think it gets confusing because we start out talking about cities but we'd also like to include other areas that are overrun with cars in the conversation. Buses in Ghent and Paris aren't going to be navigating parking lots and cul-de-sacs, no matter how much car infrastructure is removed. We can free up a lot of room for bus stops, though, which helps keep buses moving smoothly.

Suburbs are either cities in their own right, or part of the whole city. It deoesn't make sense in this discussion to think of them as not part af the city: they cover too much of the population.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

tw-20260303-001 wrote: post #240
david-gpu wrote: post #217

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As a pedestrian, I would rather risk a crash with a cyclist than with a car.

As a pedestrian I would hope that those cyclists remember when they’re pedestrians too. Both can kill you easily. But cars don’t sneak up on you silent from behind when you’re on a sidewalk.

Most collisions between cyclists and pedestrians end up with the cyclist getting more hurt. Also, the blame for collisions is slightly more attributed to pedestrians (e.g. walking across a cycle lane without looking).

As I recall, pedestrians are more likely to be killed by a driver whilst on the pavement, so whilst collisions may be more frequent with cyclists, they are extremely unlikely to lead to a KSI.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

tw-20260303-001 wrote: post #316
thrance wrote: post #259

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> Both can kill you easily. What a ridiculous statement. Motorized vehicles are involved in the vast majority of road casualties. You are much, much more likely to die from a car accident than a bike accident.

It’s ridiculous because it doesn’t fit your narrative. A bicycle hitting you are 15mph is going to fuck you up one way or another.

You're using biased language there, which to be fair is common when people discuss RTCs.

A collision between a pedestrian and a cyclist going at around 15mph is more likely to lead to the cyclist getting more hurt and the blame is slightly more likely (something like 60%/40%) to be attributed to the pedestrian.

Whilst a lot of people are fearful of cyclists and pedestrians sharing space (often due to cyclists being quiet and passing very close), the statistics show that the actual danger comes from car drivers, even just looking at incidents on the pavement.

The thing is that cyclists have "skin in the game" and so have a disincentive to collide with anything. There are certainly idiots on bikes, but it's far better to get as many idiots as possible out of cars and onto bikes (or ideally walking) for the purpose of harm minimisation. Every idiot on a bike could be an idiot that drives.

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

hectdev wrote: post #281
gambiting wrote: post #265

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God I hate this argument so much - it's just such an obviously incorrect statement which is always hard to win against because then the other side will always say "well what if you live in Novosibirsk and it's -60C outside, WHAT THEN CYCLISTS" - well nothing, if you live there then yeah I guess it doesn't work. But if you live in London, Paris, Warsaw, Barcelona, Talin or Stockholm it just doesn't hold water , and th…

I've been to Copenhagen in the dead of winter with snow on the ground and my mind was blown by how many bikes there were on the streets. It really is an adaptable activity.

I believe they prioritise clearing snow/ice from the cycle lanes.

Personally, I enjoy cycling on snow as it's often not that slippery and due to the cold, I'll usually have a fair amount of clothing to act as padding for if I do come off. Black ice is worse as the rest of the road may be fine, so you go fast until suddenly you're sliding down the road.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by peterfirefly »

saltysalt wrote: post #289
reactormonk wrote: post #261

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I have bad news for you: https://old.reddit.com/r/RentnerfahreninDinge/comments/1qtsg...

Sorry but I don't speak German, what's the context for that video?

Just watch it until about half way in.

This is the context:

> and cars aren't mounting pavements to get me...

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