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Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#61

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One side publishes words, the other DDoSes. One side could just ignore the other and go about their business, the other cannot. One is using force, which naturally leads to resistance and additional attention, the other is not. Both sides look like they have been bullied in the past and not found their way out of reproducing the pattern yet.

Words can have bad consequences. We‘ll see what will happen to Banksy after Reuters published words.

Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

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>Why? Because once the problematic content is removed it should no longer be blocked. >It's accurate It is neither a C&C server for a botnet, nor any other server related to a botnet. I would not call it accurate. >Nobody should ever use that site It has a good reputation for archiving sites, has stead the test of time, and doesn't censor pages like archive.org does allowing you to actually see the history of news ar…

The site started doctoring archived versions as part of the petty feud. That is, what was supposed to be a historical record, suddenly had content manipulated so as to feed into this fight[0]. There is no redemption. You want to be an archive, you keep it sacrosanct. Put an obvious hosting-site banner overlay if you must, but manipulating the archive is a red-line that was crossed. ...On 20 February 2026, English Wik…

That line of argument is rather misleading, as some kind of content manipulation is inherent to the service an archive that violates paywalls has to provide. It needs to conceal the accounts it uses to access these websites, and their names and traces are often on the pages it's archiving.

Did AT go beyond that and manipulate any relevant part? That's rather difficult to say now. AT is obviously tampering with evidence, but so is Wikipedia; their admins have heavily redacted their archived Talk pages out of fear one of these pseudonyms might be an actual person, so even what exactly WP accuses AT of is not exactly clear.

Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#63
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Good. You don't get to use my computer for a DDoS. I don't care why the DDoS was happening. I wasn't asked, and that's a serious breach of trust.

Breach of trust by a site whose unstated primary purpose is bypassing paywalls and ripping off content? 20 years ago during the P2P heyday this was assumed to come with the territory. Play with fire and you could get burned. If you walk into a seedy brothel in the developing world, your first thought should be "I might get drugged and robbed here" and not what you're going to type in the Yelp review later about their…

Well if we are going to use this analogy, 20 years ago virus scanners also flagged malicious stuff from p2p as a virus, and people still thought putting malicious content on p2p was a shitty thing for someone to do (even if it was somewhat expected).

Nobody was shedding any tears 20 years ago for the virus makers who had their viruses flagged by virus scanners.

Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#66

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One side publishes words, the other DDoSes. One side could just ignore the other and go about their business, the other cannot. One is using force, which naturally leads to resistance and additional attention, the other is not. Both sides look like they have been bullied in the past and not found their way out of reproducing the pattern yet.

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Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#68

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Okay, there's one filler post I missed. I'm sure it took a lot of time to write the 16739382nd post explaining what the various things on a boarding pass mean.

They have posted twice in four years. Once doing some digging into who runs archive today, and a second time to respond to a ddos attack. Writing about being ddos'd seems eminently reasonable. So if you elide that, you are talking about a single article in four years. It's genuinely nothing.

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Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#69
post #9

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Why? It’s accurate and if the owner has chosen to do this for months now, why should we ever trust they won’t again? Nobody should ever use that site and every optional filter should block them.

Because it's not the place of a DNS resolver to police the internet.

Literally what the product is here.
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