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Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by stackghost »

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #2

This article has such a weird framing. It keeps repeating how the cleaner air is so good for tourists. But tourists visiting Paris for a week don’t get the majority of the benefit from cleaner air. The Parisian residents living there throughout the year do. Maybe because it’s CNN, an American outlet, they’re focused on the “tourist”, but these benefits have mostly accrued to Parisians. Also, the 4% increase in traffi…

>But tourists visiting Paris for a week don’t get the majority of the benefit from cleaner air.

First impressions matter, though.

When you fly into e.g. New York and they pop the door open you get that whiff of exhaust fumes. The city reeks.

Vancouver on the other hand it smells like the ocean.

Any improvement of air quality does matter for tourists and residents.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by Mawr »

the_biot wrote: post #50
tikhonj wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of the changes in the comment make owning a car impossible, they just make driving marginally less privileged over walking and biking.

No, it's worse than that. The city council very much implemented an anti-car (harassment) policy, to the point that car owners felt hounded by their own council's policies. It seriously wasn't a matter of "marginally less privileged".

The starting point is anti-anything-but-a-car, so it's understandable that in the process of getting to any sort of parity you'd feel like it's "harassment".

It's like claiming getting rid of slavery is "harassment", because your unfair privileges are being taken back.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by kjkjadksj »

mrtksn wrote: post #168
goldenarm wrote: post #20

I moved from LA to Paris, my mental and physical health improved dramatically. I don't even take the subway, walking and biking are enough where I live. Hopefully we can reach the comfort of dutch cities within a decade.

What do you think about all those videos on how dangerous Paris is? Having made the move, would you say that those stem from real experiences and are organic or would you say that it was an organized campaign for some political reason? Or maybe something else? Trump keeps saying that they want to prevent USA becoming a dangerous place like Europe, even said that recently and the Irish president disagreed with him. As…

Trump and his base think that. The rest of us know we are 40 years behind the rest of the modern world.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by b3orn »

black_puppydog wrote: post #131

People keep saying Hidalgo's policies made people angry, but then voter turnout when she actually asks for confirmation of her policies is low. For example, 2024's vote on whether to triple the parking fees for big SUVs. [1] Turnout was tiny, but the measure passed. Well what does that mean? It certainly doesn't mean that there is a huge wave of enthusiasm for the measure. But conversely it also means there's not a h…

I would take low voter turnout more as indifference than as lack of enthusiam. To take the parking fee for SUVs example, I would assume a lot of people affected by it and complaining about it aren't even living in Paris, so they can't vote against it.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by rsynnott »

dpark wrote: post #83
dopidopHN2 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Rich people zoom in to work and take a stroll to the market on Saturday morning, and they enjoy tapas a the quaint Bistro on the bank of the seine. Driving is for plebes

I don’t know how you’re defining “rich” but the wealthiest folks I know all go to work physically. They get in their cars, or in one case on their bike, and commute to work like everyone else.

Concentrating on the very wealthiest is perhaps unhelpful, as there are very few of them, so they’re kinda irrelevant for planning purposes. Most well-off people I know commute to work on the train or bus; the city center offices where well-off people tend to work in Dublin are not generally exactly well-provided with parking, if they have it at all, and the traffic is pretty horrible. The office of the tech multinational I work in has 700 people, and capacity for more, and, I think, about 30 parking spaces.

Being on the DART (a not-quite-metro; trains carrying a thousand people every ten minutes per direction) or Luas (a high-capacity tram system) lines tends to lead to homes being considerably more expensive than those which only have bus access.

Dublin used to have a synthetic ‘posh’ accent that was often referred to as DART-speak, because it was common in the upper-middle-class suburbs along the southern section of the DART line. Public transport can be posh, or at least seen as such.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by 0xf8 »

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #2

This article has such a weird framing. It keeps repeating how the cleaner air is so good for tourists. But tourists visiting Paris for a week don’t get the majority of the benefit from cleaner air. The Parisian residents living there throughout the year do. Maybe because it’s CNN, an American outlet, they’re focused on the “tourist”, but these benefits have mostly accrued to Parisians. Also, the 4% increase in traffi…

Agreed the tourist POV center focus is bizarre AF. it’s almost like they were afraid to ask Parisians or even other French natives regularly frequenting Paris what they thought and so they just went with tourists are happy…

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by kjkjadksj »

LaGrange wrote: post #106
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Electric cars tend to be heavier than ICE cars. This means their tyres wear out faster, which is plastic dust being thrown up in the air. (We're still not sure of the health impacts of microplastics, but we do know they accumulate in various organs, including the brain.) They also throw up road dust, and we know that rock dust is really bad to breathe in. Air pollution is still present. Compared to ICE cars fitted wi…

We don’t really know if eating microplastics is particularly bad, but we do know breathing any pm2.5 and below dust is.

Wait till you find out you breath those microplastics as pm2.5 dust too

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by hamdingers »

jfengel wrote: post #80
frnx wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new large cycling strips that appeared in the last 5-6 years are so good. At commute time there are frequently jammed with /cyclists/, but let's face it it's miles better than being stuck in a car. I shudder to think about the alternative where each cyclist was instead alone in a small car, this wouldn't even fit on the roads.

On a nice day it's fantastic to be out, but Paris can be cold and rainy. They really need to have a plan for those days, too. Paris Metro is pretty nice, and reaches most of the car free area. But I'm not sure if it can handle all of the cyclists if they're all trying to avoid a déluge.

Put on a jacket.

One of the saddest effects of car-dependency is people forgetting how to dress themselves for the weather.

Re: Mayor of Paris removed parking spaces, reduced the number of cars

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Post by consumer451 »

b0rtb0rt wrote: post #190
consumer451 wrote: post #19

Complete tangent, but I met my equally nerdy brother in Paris last month. It was my first time, and his fourth. We stayed South of the Republique metro station. After the literal 30th indie Manga [0] shop that we walked by, I asked him: "how are all these shops financially viable?" He said: "look inside." Holy crap, they all had customers inside! I had no idea that Japanese culture has such a strong presence in the h…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japonisme

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