Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
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Re: Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
#2Hope this will be a wake up call for the countries to double down on green/nuclear energy instead of sucking Russian/Middle Eastern tit.
Re: Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
#3800 lbs. gorilla: for energy generation uses (so excluding petrochem processes explicitly requiring petroleum feedstock without any closely practical substitute(s)), the goal of decarbonization is essential not just for climate change reasons.
Re: Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
#4AFAIK, 1970s energy crisis pushed Europeans to invent efficient small cars so let's hope this crisis pushes EU into completely abandoning fossils in favor of electricity generated by local means like nuclear, solar, hydro, wind etc. Even if the war doesn't go long enough, the contrast between Spain and Italy in energy security is stark enough to make a point.
Maybe Trump is playing 4D chess after all, pushing Europe into independence so US can spend its energy on China :)
Re: Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
#5Europe has plenty of shale gas but refuses to exploit it. Nuclear was stopped or even dismantled. There is such a lack of strategic thinking that at some point the only logical conclusion is that we like to suffer and to lose.
Re: Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
#6Hope this will be a wake up call for the countries to double down on green/nuclear energy instead of sucking Russian/Middle Eastern tit.
Nuclear takes like 15 years to build, it's being worked on but it won't be much more relevant soon.
Green energy isn't very useful for heating in winter.
Re: Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
#7Hope this will be a wake up call for the countries to double down on green/nuclear energy instead of sucking Russian/Middle Eastern tit.
Nuclear takes like 15 years to build, it's being worked on but it won't be much more relevant soon. Green energy isn't very useful for heating in winter.
Green energy is super useful for heating in winter. At this point heat pumps are better than gas in almost every way unless the temperature is well below freezing. So it's just a matter of electricity which Italy and Belgium can get from the current mix of green energy (wind and even solar) and other forms (nuclear, coal, etc...)
Re: Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
#8Hope this will be a wake up call for the countries to double down on green/nuclear energy instead of sucking Russian/Middle Eastern tit.
Nuclear takes like 15 years to build, it's being worked on but it won't be much more relevant soon. Green energy isn't very useful for heating in winter.
> Green energy isn't very useful for heating in winter.
Solar energy isn't the only 'green' energy. The wind, tides, geothermal vents, rivers etc all continue to work as well or better in winter.
Plus there's a lot of room for improvement elsewhere, like insulation.
Re: Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
#9Europe has plenty of shale gas but refuses to exploit it. Nuclear was stopped or even dismantled. There is such a lack of strategic thinking that at some point the only logical conclusion is that we like to suffer and to lose.
> at some point the only logical conclusion is that we like to suffer and to lose.
Or that our political and media class are captured...
Re: Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after biggest LNG plant bombed
#10Hope this will be a wake up call for the countries to double down on green/nuclear energy instead of sucking Russian/Middle Eastern tit.
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