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Our commitment to Windows quality

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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by hsuduebc2 »

PaulKeeble wrote: post #469

Microsoft has spent over a decade swimming against their users interests at this point and during that time frame Linux has been improving its desktop and improving kernel performance. We are now at the point where Linux emulating Window's entire API space for games with worse drivers is dangerously close on performance with none of the privacy invasion and anti user features. Its pretty late in the game for them to…

Absolutely. Fuck them.

I am curious whether they will "suddenly realized" this after the community feedback process they initiated because they supposedly care so much about their users. Then, out of nowhere, they discovered that users do not want to be spied on or treated as the product. They just want to use their fucking operating system in peace without Microsoft constantly forcing its own products on them.

I wonder when that realization came and why. Maybe they started losing market share to Apple or users just prefer phones to pc even more?

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by econ »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #639
aeternum wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much of big tech became Product leaders running amok. Somehow It shifted from users know best to "Product" knows best. I think this all stemmed everyone wanting to be Apple except no one actually achieved it and now we have 3 different versions of the audio control panel in Windows, the start button is somehow in the middle of the screen, and windows search no longer searches your PC. Deleting "Product" might save wi…

I've never been bothered by Windows's changes, and I mostly think they were reasonable. But for a number of reasons it's never going to be easy for them to gain total acceptance: 1) the massive backwards compatibility back to Windows 95 stuff, 2) the willingness to try new and/or silly things that Apple is too stuffy to try, and 3) the fact that there's only ever going to be one "flavor" of Windows; if we were stuck…

If you have two candidate ui designs you pick the best of the two. If you have an established ui and a candidate the new design needs to be dramatically better. It has to scream superiority. If it isn't that you are just ruining ux.

I install Gimp one time. I like to casual draw on autopilot, usually while doing something else, talking, watching a movie, listening to a podcast etc. For some reason half the icons were missing and the existing set was replaced with the hipster horrifying flat single color monstrosities. This would have been a waste of their time if it was only an option for no one who wants this some place buried deep in the settings where it would only clutter the nesaserily complex options.

With MS it feels more like intentionally trolling the user

The best spot for the applications sub menu is to not make it a sub menu. The second best is to leave it wherever the fuck it was before. I want to struggle remembering what an application was called and wonder why they are organized so poorly. (Not by file Association) In stead they have me wonder where they even are???

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by tangwwwei »

Lammy wrote: post #625
aeternum wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much of big tech became Product leaders running amok. Somehow It shifted from users know best to "Product" knows best. I think this all stemmed everyone wanting to be Apple except no one actually achieved it and now we have 3 different versions of the audio control panel in Windows, the start button is somehow in the middle of the screen, and windows search no longer searches your PC. Deleting "Product" might save wi…

> and now we have 3 different versions of the audio control panel in Windows And yet somehow none of them are as nice as https://eartrumpet.app/ lol

had to stop using eartrumpet cos it kept randomly pulling the cpu to near 100%. updating didnt help

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by ZeWaka »

lousken wrote: post #450

What about bringing back old notepad and improving admin apps? MMC snapins haven't been touched in years and still can't even sort those columns properly, search and filtering is terrible Control panel is still not migrated over to settings after 12 years nor you can open two settings apps. Error messages in modern apps are just the worst, how about printing valuable error messages than "something is wrong"? Fixing d…

I actually like the features on new notepad (like dark mode and markdown, not the Copilot garbage), but 300MB of memory for notepad.exe is fucking hilarious.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by fyredge »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #387
nomel wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's fundamentally inferior to Linux The context here is the average user, so you need to consider if this they share this perspective of fundamentally inferiority that is so obvious to you. Here's a litmus test: Put your non-programmer relative in front of each, have them do some common simple tasks, like print an email on their printer, and ask them. You are *NOT* an average user. edit: people are focusing on the…

> Put your non-programmer relative in front of each, have them do some common simple tasks, like print an email on their printer, and ask them. My grandma does this all the time from her Linux laptop. My grandpa needed help getting it to work the first time under Windows.

This sounds disingenuous. How does your grandma fare on Windows? Can your grandpa even navigate Linux? For all I know, your grandma could be a HN user and your grandpa a plumber.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by queuebert »

It's very telling that the very first feature listed is that you can position the taskbar on the bottom, top, left and right side of the screen.

Can I change it's color, too? Amazing! /s

Microsoft appears completely bereft of creativity and innovation now.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by belviewreview »

Remember, Microsoft's goal is to turn Windows into an AI agent that keeps all your data in the cloud, that it can use that data for endless money-making purposes like advertising, and that you pay for with a dozen different subscriptions.

Microsoft will continue to move in that direction in various overt and covert manners, and any so-called responding to what users wants is just a charade.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by [deleted] »

HaZeust wrote: post #644
natas wrote: post #151

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

I've seen almost this exact comment before, have you shared this anecdote before?

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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by efilife »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #629

> We are introducing the ability to reposition it to the top or sides of your screen, making it [the taskbar] easier to personalize your workspace. Ehm, what? Windows XP had this feature. Pretty sure that Vista and 7 did too. I had plenty of friends who used the taskbar in non-standard edges. Did they recently REMOVE the feature and are now bragging about introducing this "new" feature, or am I missing something?

You are not missing anything
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