Fascinating culture and raises numerous questions arising from my subsequent confusion: 1. > 返し箸 Kaeshibashi (also known as 逆さ箸 sakasabashi) > To turn the chopsticks around when serving food so that the tips of the chopsticks that have touched one’s mouth do not touch the food. Does this mean it is preferable to use the tips that may have touched mouth to then serve more food? Or is this considered fine because it's…
> Just proceed to eat some splinters, then? What is the good etiquette way to handle low quality el-cheapo chopsticks? Well first of all the chopsticks are joined at the non-eating end, typically. So the splinters would be bothering your fingers more than anything. It's rude because it insults the host, in a way. Anywhere that would care about you doing it should not be giving you the cheap chopsticks in the first pl…
A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)
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Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)
#62The article does a good job calling out the more serious offenses, although I’d personally argue that nigiribashi is just as bad as the other two. Most Japanese people would probably react with a bit of shock to those. That said, chopstick etiquette is definitely evolving. Something like chobujubashi isn’t enforced as strictly anymore, especially with more awareness around left-handed users. Kaeshibashi, on the other…
Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
The splinters come from where they break apart and there's not really any reason to have that part of the chopsticks touching your skin. But you move away from break apart disposable chopsticks in Japan long before you get to high etiquette dining. In my experience, basically every restaurant in Japan that isn't of, like, fast food tier, provides actual chopsticks instead of disposable ones.
I had mostly disposables but they were actually lathed wood. The crude rectangular cut chopsticks are terrible -- usually not for splinters, but they often break imperfectly, leaving you with two sticks with different lengths.
Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)
#64> To keep putting the chopsticks into the same side dishes. It is proper etiquette to first eat rice, move on to eat from a side dish, eat rice again, and then eat from a different side dish.
So keto itself is a faux pas?
> 返し箸 Kaeshibashi (also known as 逆さ箸 sakasabashi)
> To turn the chopsticks around when serving food so that the tips of the chopsticks that have touched one’s mouth do not touch the food.
Ewww. I’d rather be rude than share germs.
Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)
#65The article does a good job calling out the more serious offenses, although I’d personally argue that nigiribashi is just as bad as the other two. Most Japanese people would probably react with a bit of shock to those. That said, chopstick etiquette is definitely evolving. Something like chobujubashi isn’t enforced as strictly anymore, especially with more awareness around left-handed users. Kaeshibashi, on the other…
I was always under the impression this was the polite thing to do.
Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)
#66> 移り箸 Utsuribashi (also known as 渡り箸 wataribashi) > To keep putting the chopsticks into the same side dishes. It is proper etiquette to first eat rice, move on to eat from a side dish, eat rice again, and then eat from a different side dish. So keto itself is a faux pas? > 返し箸 Kaeshibashi (also known as 逆さ箸 sakasabashi) > To turn the chopsticks around when serving food so that the tips of the chopsticks that have tou…
> Ewww. I’d rather be rude than share germs.
I think this means you should use something other than your chopsticks to share food, and not just assume that "the back of my chopsticks are germ-free, I'll use that"
Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)
#67Always interesting to see the analogs of island vs continental culture when comparing UK America and Japan China. Seems like islanders, due to their reliance on trade, naturally get specialized and autistic about their craft so they can have a comparative advantage, and their obsessions carry over into stuffy traditional practices.
I counter with the American swap-the-fork-hand-after-you-cut thing. Diabolical.
Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's rude if it's a nice establishment, as it conveys your belief that the chopsticks are of low quality. So that's what you're signaling with that. If everyone already knows they are cheap (e.g. disposable), then have at it.
If a nice establishment has splintery chopsticks maybe they should look in the mirror.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most of these are common sense. A lot of them are not common sense at all. Even the 'serious' ones require cultural knowledge to understand. Only a subset of the rest would be un-ideal across cultures, which is what I would use to measure 'common sense'. It's like how in some asian cultures it's rude to bring the bowl closer to you by lifting it off the table, and in others it's the opposite. And of course there's…
A bunch of the common sense ones, like not pointing at someone with your ustensiles, are the same in western etiquette.
Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not a taboo, it's just not considered good manners in formal contexts. But it's fast and efficient, which is why people do it anyway.
So how does one eat ramen-like dishes in formal contexts?