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A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I counter with the American swap-the-fork-hand-after-you-cut thing. Diabolical.

That’s just mental. Does my head in when I see it.

American raised by a Brit here, and I was literally just doing this during lunch out. I consider the upside down fork just plain torture.

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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I'm curious for a native's opinion on how important these are. The etiquette I was taught growing up in the US is a mix of:

    - several things that are often quoted as good etiquette but nobody follows (elbows off the table, correct order of dishes)
    - lots of things that are customary but nobody cares if you don't follow it (napkin on lap, placement of silverware)
    - only a few things that actually matter and would be considered rude by normal people (don't touch shared food with used silverware, keep your mouth closed while chewing)
Of these several dozen "rules" for chopsticks, how many actually fall into the last category of things that actually matter?

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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I was shocked to find it's a faux pas to rub disposable chopsticks to remove potential splinters. I was taught this is what you're supposed to do with disposable chopsticks.

It's rude if it's a nice establishment, as it conveys your belief that the chopsticks are of low quality. So that's what you're signaling with that. If everyone already knows they are cheap (e.g. disposable), then have at it.

If a nice establishment has splintery chopsticks maybe they should look in the mirror.

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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For anyone else curious after reading "-bashi" 40 times:

(Not gonna direct quote because the damn site doesn't allow copy-pasting so they don't get a link, paraphrased):

Kirai-bashi would be literally translated to "dislike-chopsticks" and means bad chopstick table-manners. Hashi is chopsticks and bashi is the voiced form of it.

So the bashi suffix/word on the end of all of these just means chopsticks it seems.

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Fascinating culture and raises numerous questions arising from my subsequent confusion: 1. > 返し箸 Kaeshibashi (also known as 逆さ箸 sakasabashi) > To turn the chopsticks around when serving food so that the tips of the chopsticks that have touched one’s mouth do not touch the food. Does this mean it is preferable to use the tips that may have touched mouth to then serve more food? Or is this considered fine because it's…

The disposable wooden chopsticks in Japan don’t splinter (they’re higher quality and cost more than the ones we have in the US). That’s why you don’t need to rub to get rid of splinters.

The disposable wooden chopsticks in Japan don’t splinter

If that was always true, there wouldn't be a word for it.

I've been given some pretty gnarly chopsticks at roadside places outside the main metropolitan areas.

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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> To place one’s mouth against the side of a dish and push food in with the chopsticks. I've seen people eat noodles and broth (e.g., ramen) like that a million times? What am I missing? How do you properly eat noodles and broth?

It's not a taboo, it's just not considered good manners in formal contexts. But it's fast and efficient, which is why people do it anyway.

So how does one eat ramen-like dishes in formal contexts?

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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I was shocked to find it's a faux pas to rub disposable chopsticks to remove potential splinters. I was taught this is what you're supposed to do with disposable chopsticks.

I agree. I always have to do it, except at the rare restaurants. Not just splinters, but rough edges too.

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Glad to know I haven’t picked up any seriously bad habits, but how the heck do you keep the chopsticks aligned without tapping them somewhere?

Most of these seem related to health/sanitary practices/being considerate more than anything. Just avoiding contaminating what others are going to eat with your own utensils is an easy way to describe several of them.

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