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Our commitment to Windows quality

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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by hbn »

protoster wrote: post #81

So why did they make taskbar bottom only in the first place? Too difficult to implement? Branding? No room for ads when it's vertical?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong cause I don't recall where I got this understanding from, but I believe Windows 11 still has the Windows 10 taskbar, but a startup process basically hides it and replaces it with a brand new one they made for Windows 11, built with web technologies. And they probably just never got around to figuring out how to put it somewhere else on the screen since they didn't inherit that behaviour from before.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by bigyabai »

as1mov wrote: post #82
rgovostes wrote: post #67

To demonstrate the seriousness of their commitment to Windows quality, you can now move the taskbar to the left side of the screen. No no, it's not vaporware, they even included four screenshots. Everyone can rest assured now.

> you can now move the taskbar to the left side of the screen Windows 11 is finally catching up to MATE desktop (which is maintained possibly by a single guy from their basement), what a time to be alive!

Hell, taskbar positioning was a feature on Windows 10. They're just pretending like they didn't remove it for brownie points.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by hbn »

stego-tech wrote: post #24
gzread wrote: post #4

Listen to their actions, not their words.

This. Microsoft has said similar things before, and always tripled down on bad behavior afterward. Their priority is business outcomes, not user experiences or support, and that’s why even this non-apology makes it clear the stuff customers, engineers, and support staff hate - invasive telemetry, outright surveillance/spyware, online-only requirements, AI-everywhere, constant arbitrary deprecation of APIs and endpoin…

> Plan an exit strategy now, before you need it later.

The idea that we'll all be forced off of Windows one day sounds like a dream, but so far we continue to be in a state where myself and many other are long past the point of wanting to leave, but we can't for some reason or another.

Microsoft knows that, which is why they've been able to do whatever they want and not worry about the consequences.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by onemoresoop »

grafda wrote: post #21

Feels like screaming "please don't leave us, we will now build what you ask for". On the one hand, this is great to hear, but on the other side I wonder how much this will matter. Apple is now winning on the hardware other than offering a better UX experience. But they also have lost their touch with it over the years!

> Feels like screaming "please don't leave us, we will now build what you ask for"

And when all is good and everybody's too busy to pay attention we'll force feed you an update that will revert all changes to what we want.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by Someone1234 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #56
itopaloglu83 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry but I need to see it to believe it. Otherwise who can explain, how the Windows Explorer struggles to list 20 files. How is it even possible to spend 4-5 seconds to show a list of files in a local freaking folder?

The Windows computer I have to use at work takes over 15 seconds to start the new calculator app. The old calculator launched instantly.

I've seen that too. I discovered Calculator was doing a DNS lookup for some reason, and that slow DNS resolution was the cause...

That's a why, but it raises more questions than it does answers.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by bigyabai »

SpecialistK wrote: post #35
drschwabe wrote: post #27

Too little too late, open source Windows 7 and give it a new 10 year LTS commitment then we can talk.

What does 7 offer over a LTSC version of 10/11 that open source couldn't fix?

A user interface that wasn't designed in the middle of 4 identity crises.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by hbn »

wvenable wrote: post #38
ivl wrote: post #13

> More taskbar customization, including vertical and top positions: Repositioning the taskbar is one of the top asks we’ve heard from you. We are introducing the ability to reposition it to the top or sides of your screen, making it easier to personalize your workspace. I wonder if this will include being able to put it on the non-primary display once again. It's not mentioned, but that was one of the biggest frustra…

I cannot recommend StartAllBack enough.

I recently managed to configure StartAllBack to make practically everything look like Windows 7, and it's improved the experience ten times over

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by iknowstuff »

runjake wrote: post #60
binsquare wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't congratulate yet until you see actual outcomes. The author of this commitment is the same person (Pavan Davuluri) spearheading move of Windows into an Agentic OS: https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/windows-...

I can't upvote this comment enough. The only thing I'd add is that not only did he tweet the infamous tweet that caused the backlash, Pavan ridiculed those in the backlash (since deleted). Also, Satya still spews the same "agentic OS" narrative as recent as last week. So, I hope for the best, but I don't plan on taking them at their word.

I missed the drama! https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/windows-... this thing?
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