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MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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Why is there so much interest in local AI systems, am I missing something? Cloud providers have scale and expertise that would allow for much bigger throughput at lower costs. The small latency gains will be nice, but ChatGPT and Claude already come through blazingly fast via their API.

1. Local models become more capable 2. you can easily fine-tune them 3. availability of certain cloud models and your access to them is something you can't control 4. privacy of your data

Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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Why is there so much interest in local AI systems, am I missing something? Cloud providers have scale and expertise that would allow for much bigger throughput at lower costs. The small latency gains will be nice, but ChatGPT and Claude already come through blazingly fast via their API.

I find it so incredibly freaking cool that the machine sitting next to me can generate code, images, and prose based on natural language prompts. It's cool that any computer can do that, of course, but it hits different when it's the one right here in my apartment versus a server off in the ether somewhere. It's the sort of thing I think about it in utter amazement as I fall asleep at night.

I don't know if that's why other people are interested. I'm probably weird. But that's what drives my interest.

Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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My first 'real' machine was a Price Club (now Costco) 386sx for $3800 in late '89, which would be nearly $10k adjusted for inflation. 16 MHz, 1 MB RAM, 40 MB hard disk. That was bargain basement for that era. IBMs, Compaqs and the like were ~$5k similarly configured, and the first 486s were in the $7-9k area.

This picture of the Ryzen AI Max+ blew my mind. https://images.prismic.io/frameworkmarketplace/Z7aVJZ7c43Q3f... Look this isn't an ad. I've been building my own desktops since I was 14. It's always been a CPU and motherboard and memory separate type of deal but this thing has it all integrated. Look how small it is. I use Gentoo. I compile all the things. I know exactly how long it takes to compile gcc because I do i…

I bought one of those 6 months ago when the top spec was $2k, now it's $2700 yikes. Very happy with my purchase. I picked this precisely because it's the only non-apple with that unified architecture for memory. I still wanted to put kubernetes on it so it's important it's not a Mac.

Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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How is Qwen3.5 with 9B anywhere close to GPT-5.4 with xxxB?

It's a subset task. ..

I've been using the 35B model on a 4090, tokens are ~3x faster than a MacBook but the quality is closer to sonnet 3.5 or so in my experience.

It is still incredibly impressive of course! I just wish it was jailbroken

Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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M5 MAX should be very capable, you have a great brand new MBP.

I've been doing a lot of experimentation with Qwen3.5 models locally, and I've found for other tasks that the Opus 4.6 distilled versions of the model ("Qwopus") tend to perform better for other tasks. But this is mostly based on the quality of output, not necessarily from a performance perspective. I'll report back once I get around to running the benchmark. I'm also interested in applying local AI tools onto my loc…

I just received one report that UniFi is using RTSPs, one fix is to loosen the RTSP string pattern, a release version is uploading ( 0.2.7 ). I'll find one UniFi camera to test secure RTSP streaming.

Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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Yes you can get an RTSPS stream, but looks like Aegis is doing some validation that won't accept them. They look like - rtsps://192.168.1.1:7441/uOndh6hJd3Bti4kd?enableSrtp

Oh, sorry about that. I didn't test RTSPS stream, what model is it? I'll go by one and test. Before then, I'll check the flow to loosen the validation. Let's prepare a release for this ...

There are many different models, but all should come up with similar RTSPS stream from Protect. Let me know when you cut a new release and i'll try it!

Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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Currently the barrier to entry for local models is about $2500. Funny thing is $2500 is about the amount my parents paid for a 166 MHZ machine in 1995.

The top local mode in this benchmark is Qwen3.5-9B (Q4_K_M), which is not a big model.

9B = 9 billion parameters. Q4_K_M is the quantization which will come in somewhere around 4.5 bits per weight.

It will run well on a $500 Mac Mini.

Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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Thanks for pointing out Unifi Protect, as long as the camera supports ONVIF(RTSP), then it could be connected, please let me know more, I'm not familiar with Unifi Protect, will do more research...

Yes you can get an RTSPS stream, but looks like Aegis is doing some validation that won't accept them. They look like - rtsps://192.168.1.1:7441/uOndh6hJd3Bti4kd?enableSrtp

We managed a fix to loosen the validation, the version number is 0.2.7. Mac version is released, waiting for Windows' release.

Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

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Oh, sorry about that. I didn't test RTSPS stream, what model is it? I'll go by one and test. Before then, I'll check the flow to loosen the validation. Let's prepare a release for this ...

There are many different models, but all should come up with similar RTSPS stream from Protect. Let me know when you cut a new release and i'll try it!

Mac version is up 5 mins ago, let me know if team breaks anything, ... Weekend will be on call. LOL.

Re: MacBook M5 Pro and Qwen3.5 = Local AI Security System

#130

I have always envisioned a ai server being part of a family's major purchases e.g. when they buy a house, appliance, etc. they also buy a 'ai system'. Machine hardware evolution is slowing down, pretty soon you can buy one big ass server that will last potentially decades as it would be purpose built for ai. Things like 'context based home security' yeah thats just, automatic, free, part of the ai system. Everyone wi…

I disagree. Let's take the M1 vs the M5 ( https://www.macrumors.com/2025/11/10/apple-silicon-m1-to-m5-... ): - 6× faster CPU/GPU performance - 6× faster AI performance - 7.7× faster AI video processing - 6.8× faster 3D rendering - 2.6× faster gaming performance - 2.1× faster code compiling Over the span of 5 years. Plus, realistically what makes an "ai" server different from a computer? This "lineage info of the fami…

It depends on what/how you're comparing. Core to core, according to CPU benchmark, the M1 is 5800 vs the M5 at 3600, so we're still not quite to 2x.

Overall system performance is better at about 2x improvement thanks to extra cores/other improvements/changes. I could see other more specialized benchmarks improving more thanks to different improvements/core/power/size improvements in other components (GPU/NPU/etc...).

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