It’s been a month. Not long enough for a trend. Every time gas prices spike these celebratory pieces come out and then when gas prices drop at the end the consumer markets revealed preferences are made bare again. Let’s find out if this can sustain for more than a year after gas prices drop.
BYD is seeing a flood of new EV buyers
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> public transit Metros and light-rail systems tend to use electricity. Manila has both. > ICE scooter You know EVs are allowed to be scooters too, right?
> You know EVs are allowed to be scooters too, right?
You are rebutting a completely different statement which was not said, and arguing in bad faith.
The biggest hindrance to EV adoption are EV people and their religious fervor to win at all costs.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
> public transit Metros and light-rail systems tend to use electricity. Manila has both. > ICE scooter You know EVs are allowed to be scooters too, right?
> You know EVs are allowed to be scooters too, right? You are rebutting a completely different statement which was not said, and arguing in bad faith. The biggest hindrance to EV adoption are EV people and their religious fervor to win at all costs.
What am I trying to win? Who am I hindering from getting an EV?
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#64How much many more wars over gas or oil do we need to finally just take the energy that (for the most part) is available locally and renewable?!
The petrol era is coming to an end. Our current administration might desperately want to remain a petrol state (for reasons that escape me), but it will only delay the inevitable. The EU is not much better either. The writing has been on the wall, and even since the Russian invasion into Ukraine not much has happened.
What is going on? Are we all insane, or is it just intense lobbying of yesterday's petrol industry?
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with many of these EVs is that they were way too expensive. The main reason companies were producing them is due to regulatory requirements and how emissions standards are calculated, not necessarily because wanted to sell these EVs. What we really need are incentives for companies to build more affordable EVs. California could play a role here, but given the strong opinions we have about Elon Musk, nothi…
China and increasingly India are building very affordable EVs. You can get this guy for $7700, or full-featured models from $10,000: https://driveauthority.com/cheapest-ev-car-in-china/ All you really need is a political snap of the fingers to remove tariffs, so they can start selling them in the US. Of course, there is absolutely no way this will happen with the current administration.
All the EV tariffs are staying place past the end of the Trump administration because protectionism is now bipartisan.
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#66BYD are about to launch an EV that charges from 10 to 70% in 5 minutes. As much as I recoil at a brand called "Build Your Dreams", that is quite compelling. https://www.byd.com/us/news-list/DENZA-Z9GT-to-start-Europes...
See those big T-shaped things in the picture? Those are the charging stations that BYD (or someone) is going to need to build to see those charging speeds. I'm not saying it can't be done, but as one with an 800V Hyundai that has theoretical charging speed of 350kW, don't expect to just plug in at Electrify America and be done in 5 minutes. (Because the highest I've seen on the Hyundai was 243kW, and I've seen that once, and over 200kW only twice.)
But BYD is pushing forward, and though there's some infrastructure to build it'll get there eventually.
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#67I finally put my money where my mouth is and bought a PHEV. In the past month I've done all my errands around town exclusively on battery power (30-40 miles per charge) from a home L1 charger. I know EV purists will complain about the complexity of maintaining the gas engine, but this hits the perfect sweet spot for me - it doesn't weigh a million tons, it cost under 40k new, and the one weekend a month when I need t…
I think plug-in hybrids are the perfect combo. You get amazing flexibility and if you mostly drive locally, then 80-90% you are probably purely driving electric When we bought are last car, I would've bought one of those if there had been a Toyota or Honda minivan. We ended up going for a regular hybrid instead. Hopefully this category gets adopted by more car makers
Extra weight, extra drivetrain complexity, and many owners don't actually charge their hybrids so they're getting worse mileage.
Tradeoffs everywhere, so "perfect" is very much not the word I'd apply.
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PHEV is the absolute way to go. Next car is 100% going to be this. I rented two EV's and had serious stress about charging in locations I wasn't familiar with. All the different plug types and speeds was also not helpful. PHEV is a great gateway into full EV.
I totally understand the learning curve aspect, but I think if you owned one that stress would fade away pretty quickly. I will first point out that for DC fast charging, there are only two connectors to think about. It is not really more complicated than that. It's a learning curve, but not much different than learning the difference between gasoline, diesel, and which octane to put in your car. You would have your…
> I don’t really understand why it’s such a burden to plan the route ahead of time. It’s gotta be less of a burden than getting multiple oil changes per year or visiting a gas station every week or two for your typical commuting.
Well it depends on your specific configuration/workflow.
I just get oil changes when I have my vehicle in for seasonal tires changes anyway - I drop it off in the morning on my way to my office and pick it up after work. The experience would be identical with an EV.
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#70Genius strategy by the USA to disincentivize EVs, disincentivize solar and wind, increase dependency on oil & gas, and...start a war that makes oil and gas more expensive for everyone. Markets are now forecasting oil prices will stay above $100 a barrel for multiple years . Best of luck to the economy.
"Strategy", you say.
It is a strategy, the oil producers in the US are making bank right now. They're getting exactly what they paid for by buying this presidency.