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HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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Re: HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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Just further cements HP's position as one of the most anti-consumer multi-national companies in existence.

You would never suspect they once made some of the world's finest test/scientific equipment.

Rome once ruled the greatest empire on earth. Vs. look at the last few centuries of Italian history. Regression to mediocrity seems an inescapable part of human endeavor.

Re: HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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post #12

Just further cements HP's position as one of the most anti-consumer multi-national companies in existence.

You would never suspect they once made some of the world's finest test/scientific equipment.

I'd argue that their excellent test equipment and printers allowed this to happen; anyone who made generic shit would have been quickly killed by all the blunders they made.

Re: HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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post #13

> and offering digital self-solve solutions as an alternative But you don't have those as a real alternative! Yes, you do have some "digital", but it's of the same awful quality as this mandatory 15min rule.

The main problem is that once someone has made the decision to call, they've made their decision - a 15 minute hold isn't going to bother them much, and they certainly aren't going to do anything but sit there holding the phone.

If, instead, they had said "we'll call you back in about 15 minutes" and at the same time sent an email with chat/self help options it might have worked, because then you DO have 15 minutes to dick around.

Re: HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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If you're the customer support hotline, that's shitty practice.

On the other hand, if you're setting up an asshole filter (https://mrsteinberg.com/the-asshole-filter/), deliberately waiting a while before replying can be part of "chaotic good" tactics. You use my private email for something that has an official org process that we MUST use, per policy? It'll take me several days to reply, and then I'll ask you to use the official process anyway.

If you're setting up an asshole filter for your customers on the official support hotline, we used to call that "AITA?"

Re: HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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I worked HP CS in Highschool and during my time there I created a HTML/JS replacement for a unbearably slow tree system that made a 10+ second network call every single question(often 20+ questions and a tree copy was required for notes). Mine was instant.

They fired me for it because my AHT flagged me and it made someone look bad.

At that point (this is at Windows Vista launch) the minimum hold was 25 minutes all day.

Re: HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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If you're the customer support hotline, that's shitty practice. On the other hand, if you're setting up an asshole filter ( https://mrsteinberg.com/the-asshole-filter/ ), deliberately waiting a while before replying can be part of "chaotic good" tactics. You use my private email for something that has an official org process that we MUST use, per policy? It'll take me several days to reply, and then I'll ask you to u…

My routine is that I curse at the voice bot and treat it really poorly and berate it, but then I'm really calm, polite, and professional with the real person I end up talking to. In the vast majority of cases, yelling a person is both rude in a strict moral sense, but also usually counterproductive even when viewed through a totally selfish lens.

Re: HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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post #12

Just further cements HP's position as one of the most anti-consumer multi-national companies in existence.

You would never suspect they once made some of the world's finest test/scientific equipment.

They sort of still do!

It's just HP and HPE split up. HPE took all the nice enterprise stuff, plus the supercomputing business (they own Cray). HP took the consumer stuff, and proceeded to milk as much as they could.

Re: HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would never suspect they once made some of the world's finest test/scientific equipment.

They sort of still do! It's just HP and HPE split up. HPE took all the nice enterprise stuff, plus the supercomputing business (they own Cray). HP took the consumer stuff, and proceeded to milk as much as they could.

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Re: HP trialed mandatory 15-minute support call wait times (2025)

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would never suspect they once made some of the world's finest test/scientific equipment.

They sort of still do! It's just HP and HPE split up. HPE took all the nice enterprise stuff, plus the supercomputing business (they own Cray). HP took the consumer stuff, and proceeded to milk as much as they could.

The spinoff for lab and scientific equipment (Agilent, 1999) happened long before the HP/HPE split (2015).
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