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France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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Is an aircraft carrier's location supposed to be secret? Pretty hard to hide from a satellite I'd imagine.

Sometimes there are things that you don't want publicly known even if they're not strictly secret.

Sometimes there are things that you want publicly known even if they're strictly secret.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#32
post #25

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Many countries do not have ready access to satellite imagery, much less realtime satellite imagery. Iran, for example.

Iran is being fed intelligence by Russia, so they definitely have that info.

okay, imagine a different example which you don't think is being fed intelligence by russia

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#33
post #2

Is an aircraft carrier's location supposed to be secret? Pretty hard to hide from a satellite I'd imagine.

Many of the threats to a carrier aren’t nation states with a constellation of satellites.

You can buy satellite imaging.

Operationally, navies with carriers assume that opponents know where they are.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#34
post #16

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I think the international community is demonstrating to the US that they can't drop their military support for their allies and also expect that they still help to clean up their messes.

I kind of understand that, although of course i completely disagree with their line of thinking. Iran is everyones problem and open conflict like this would have been hard to avoid down the road. Point is they had months to anticipate this latest conflict, why did they do absolutely nothing to mitigate this? Why was the UK apparently completely unprepared? Europe's economy is suffering, more then America. Why do we e…

How is Iran anyone but Israel and USA's problem?

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#36
post #10

Maybe it was just an old stupid treason? Someone against the war and… hard to believe there are no rules about location.

Maybe it was fake. Someone with a water-borne drone and Starlink could spoof it, in order to throw those pesky Iranians off the scent. Unless you were on the aircraft carrier, had satellite imagery or could physically see it, it would be hard to prove that it was a fake. Any attempt at debunking would meet fierce resistance from Strava bros.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#38
post #10

Maybe it was just an old stupid treason? Someone against the war and… hard to believe there are no rules about location.

I don't know about Strava, but my Apple Watch will detect when I'm going on a walk or a bike ride and ask if I want to track it. I just instinctively say yes. Strava might do the same and so it could just be habit for the sailor and a dumb mistake.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#39
post #20

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deploy and do what exactly? Get involved and potentially sacrifice a few UK soldiers to stroke Trumps ego? Sit around and look pretty? Having a carrier there doesn't magically make problems go away.

Quite. It will in fact make a lot of problems for you if it gets attacked as then you need to decide if you've just had war declared on you and have to decide what to do about that.

Escorting shipping through the Straight isn't like helping an old lady across the road, it's doing it at a red crossing light while pointing an AK47 through the windscreen of the cars with your finger on the trigger daring them to test your resolve.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#40
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the international community is demonstrating to the US that they can't drop their military support for their allies and also expect that they still help to clean up their messes.

I kind of understand that, although of course i completely disagree with their line of thinking. Iran is everyones problem and open conflict like this would have been hard to avoid down the road. Point is they had months to anticipate this latest conflict, why did they do absolutely nothing to mitigate this? Why was the UK apparently completely unprepared? Europe's economy is suffering, more then America. Why do we e…

> Iran is everyones problem

It was at best a regional problem until the US and israel decided to fuck things up and make it a global problem, they didn't have nukes, they were not building nukes, even if they had nukes they would not have used them for anything other than extinction level threats, so just like israel, everyone is OK with them having nukes despite being the same type of religious nutjob thecracy, strange. Iranians are very rational when it comes to escalation, more so than israel.

> Ukraine isn't part of NATO, and the US has been carrying 90% of NATO since forever

Yeah idk, maybe don't put cia bases there then? And maybe don't antagonize russia for decades and act surprised when they act like enemies.

You won't catch me defending Russia or Iran but get the fuck out of here with the "the US are the good guys and we're doing god's work by wiping out evil regimes" rhetoric lmao

> Nobody else succeeded.

Yes because that's the only thing they know and understand, bombs, if the problem cannot be solved with bombs they're useless

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