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The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Post by forinti »

pydry wrote: post #6
askonomm wrote: post #2

Pretty sure it's just that Windows is horribly broken, privacy-invading, ad-ridden malware disguised as an operating system. I swear it seems like nobody at Microsoft not even once have asked the actual users for what they would like to see in the OS.

Actual users are less important to Microsoft than execs who actually purchase the licenses.

Plus it's hard to buy a computer without paying the MS tax, unless you build one yourself.

That's an issue I would like to see legislated! In fact, in my country there is a law that prohibits bundled purchases: it's just that the authorities are not tech savvy enough to see it when it pertains to computers and Windows.

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Post by goalieca »

Windows was fiercely hated for a long time for being extremely buggy, low quality, high price, weak security (a later concern), and Microsoft’s general anti-consumer and anti-competitive practices.

Things improved slightly for a while and maybe the generation of Mac/linux using tech workers never suffered through the worst of it, but Microsoft seems to be back on track with their old ways.

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Post by mancerayder »

askonomm wrote: post #2

Pretty sure it's just that Windows is horribly broken, privacy-invading, ad-ridden malware disguised as an operating system. I swear it seems like nobody at Microsoft not even once have asked the actual users for what they would like to see in the OS.

The video takes this one step further, and it has nothing to do with being 'out of touch' or something. The speaker is arguing there is a macro trend of pushing us towards agentic interactions instead of the UI components we're used to. Then it can track, tune and control everything we do, thanks to all the telemetry back and forth.

I wish people would engage with the content a bit. It's a huge claim (and scary).

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Post by vbezhenar »

forinti wrote: post #11
pydry wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actual users are less important to Microsoft than execs who actually purchase the licenses.

Plus it's hard to buy a computer without paying the MS tax, unless you build one yourself. That's an issue I would like to see legislated! In fact, in my country there is a law that prohibits bundled purchases: it's just that the authorities are not tech savvy enough to see it when it pertains to computers and Windows.

It makes sense, if manufacturer provides support for Linux on the same laptop SKU. But that's very rarely the case. So selling laptop without OS seems like selling half-working product. When you're buying a car, it comes with a lot of software. ECU software, multimedia software (sometimes it's Windows CE) and so on.

I saw laptops selling with FreeDOS but realistically speaking I think that majority of these laptops end up with pirated Windows, so all it provides is increasing level of piracy.

Ideally laptop should provide a choice between Linux and Windows on the first boot. And easy way to buy Windows license if user chooses it.

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Post by forinti »

surgical_fire wrote: post #10

Personal Computing was never in a better position. Linux is a joy to use. Self hosting is easy as hell, with an abundance of tools and applications available. You can buy old refurbished machines that are still pretty amazing home servers for cheap. Hell, even AI help with that. It's pretty good at making scripts and detailing step-by-step what you need to to get things running.

It is for us, the average user doesn't understand that.

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Post by tenuousemphasis »

mancerayder wrote: post #14

When is gaming on the latest hardware going to be mature enough to move off this garbage operating system? Can I play Kingdom Come II on Mint now? If not, are we moving there?

I use a SteamOS distribution for all my gaming, Bazzite. KCD2 works perfectly. The only game I haven't tried to get running yet is Star Citizen.

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Post by lallysingh »

I had to restore my son's desktop PC last night from a USB stick. It didn't even have drivers for graphics over 800x600 or the wifi card. I was flabbergasted. It's windows 11, 2026, a 6-month old PC. I genuinely don't know how someone could sell something this awful with a straight face.

Windows was only ever better than DOS, by the same vendor. It's been awful compared to any competitor it's ever had. Really. I don't see a non-gaslighting argument for Windows anywhere.

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Post by jordanb »

goalieca wrote: post #12

Windows was fiercely hated for a long time for being extremely buggy, low quality, high price, weak security (a later concern), and Microsoft’s general anti-consumer and anti-competitive practices. Things improved slightly for a while and maybe the generation of Mac/linux using tech workers never suffered through the worst of it, but Microsoft seems to be back on track with their old ways.

Microsoft cleaned up when they got hit with antitrust and then started feeling a bit of competition when operating under consent decree. That's all "behind" them now and the Google settlement put antitrust to bed.
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