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A Journey Through Infertility

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Re: A Journey Through Infertility

#21
Maybe countries could tackle such problems twofold:

- first, implement a nationwide social freezing program, where women in their 20s are offered to freeze their eggs at a young age for free. Such a large-scale program would probably also improve the tech and might make egg collection less intrusive.

- combined with this program, let the women who freeze their eggs opt-in into an egg donation program, where some of their eggs can be used by women with fertility problems

But as with many things fertility, seems that modern states simply do not have the capacity to seriously try anything. Who knows why that is.

Re: A Journey Through Infertility

#22
The cure for this is spending an afternoon volunteering in a kindergarden.

> There were the 7 a.m. doctor’s appointments before work; the dozens of days working from home in order to take all my medications; and the many times I reshuffled my travel plans.

Yes I mean just wait until you have kids. It's gonna get tougher.

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#23

I am a husband in an infertile pair which even needs surrogacy, so it is a horrendous journey. We've had 6 unsuccessful transfers so far - on average less than 1 a year (we have been trying since 2019), mostly on behalf of the surrogate mothers deciding to skedaddle randomly during the process. Although Covid didn't help either. My wife regularly observes that this hell of a journey looks more taxing on me than her.…

Amen! As so often in western society, men have no value at best, and are horrible monsters at worst. No one cares about the male part in these situations, which is a shame. But carry on, I will pray that you will succeed!

Re: A Journey Through Infertility

#24
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The total number might be a little out there due to her non-medical treatments, but the general sentiment is accurate for IVF. My wife filled up an entire sharps box with the injections she needed to take and that was with success on the first try of the first round (which is very rare). As someone who is a bit squeamish around needles, I don't know if I could have done what she did.

> that was with success on the first try of the first round (which is very rare). This very much depends on the patient history (age, cause of infertility, …) and the clinic. Live births per intended retrieval can vary from 10%-60% conditional on the above.

In our case, it was suggested that the first transfer of the first cycle had a 15% chance of success. Whether that's "very rare" is perhaps a matter of perspective. It was low enough we assumed it would be a failure and we were surprised when it succeeded, but to a doctor it's a frequent occurrence.

Re: A Journey Through Infertility

#25

Why not just use a surrogate instead? That's what every one of my friends who faced infertility, did.

A few reasons I can think of, having been through IVF twice now:

- Capability. Many couples are perfectly capable of carrying a pregnancy, they’re just having trouble conceiving.

- Cost. Surrogacy in a lot of countries is very expensive compared to IVF. Where I live in the UK, IVF is free on the NHS, or ~£8,000-£10,000 a round privately. Surrogacy can be £20,000 to £100,000 (or more), depending on the arrangement.

- Legal issues. In the UK, for example, the surrogate mother is the legal mother of the child at birth.

- Availability. Finding a surrogate can be very hard, especially in countries where commercial surrogacy is illegal. People go use surrogates abroad instead, which has its own range of issues (read up on orphaned surrogate kids in Ukraine).

- Ethical barriers. Using a surrogate involves issues of bodily autonomy. You can’t stop your surrogate smoking or drinking while pregnant, for example.

- Emotional barriers. Emotionally, motherhood starts at conception. Most mothers do not want to skip those 9 months of bonding they have with their baby prior to it being born.

Re: A Journey Through Infertility

#27

This is a very well-done piece in a good cause, but it would have been nice for the author to acknowledge the very obvious inspiration from Monument Valley - https://www.monumentvalleygame.com/mv1 - particularly given they're asking for tips.

Is there more to the inspiration than "3d isometric with a lot of staircases"?

Re: A Journey Through Infertility

#29

I get that in the West we are generally conceiving at a later stage in life than before, and that this does not improve odds of conception. However, with fertility, just as with so many things, we are individualising the problem. Here too the focus is on age. Just get kids when you're younger! What's the big deal. Let's set aside that there are deeper sociological reasons on why young people start with kids later in…

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I get that in the West we are generally conceiving at a later stage in life than before, and that this does not improve odds of conception. However, with fertility, just as with so many things, we are individualising the problem. Here too the focus is on age. Just get kids when you're younger! What's the big deal. Let's set aside that there are deeper sociological reasons on why young people start with kids later in…

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does your language model cite sources, or generate them too?
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