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ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Post by nixon_why69 »

davnicwil wrote: post #19

Very unrelated to the article, but I think 'arXiv' as a brand is bad, and really detrimental to what the institution aims to accomplish. That is, it's not readily parseable, it really gives an insider term vibe - like this isn't for you if you don't already know what it means or how you should read or say it. It sort of reminds me of the overuse of latin and latinate terms generally in the old professions and, well,…

> like this isn't for you if you don't already know what it means

Isn't that actually kindof a good brand signal for a repo of very specialized papers? "Fun with learning" in comic sans wouldn't help credibility.

Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Post by davnicwil »

john-titor wrote: post #20
davnicwil wrote: post #19

Very unrelated to the article, but I think 'arXiv' as a brand is bad, and really detrimental to what the institution aims to accomplish. That is, it's not readily parseable, it really gives an insider term vibe - like this isn't for you if you don't already know what it means or how you should read or say it. It sort of reminds me of the overuse of latin and latinate terms generally in the old professions and, well,…

I wonder what makes you feel that. I've been publishing preprints close to a decade on arxiv now and never had any particular feelings about it. To me it's just a way to get out your work fast, so that there is already a trace of it on the Internets - nothing more and nothing less. > That is, it's not readily parseable, it really gives an insider term vibe... Isn't that normal with highly specialized research fields?…

It's an opinion, and you feeling no particular way about it is equally valid.

But I did justify and maybe to reword slightly, surely if one of the main drivers is opening up research, the brand name should be something that's less obscure and more accessible / understandable as to what it is on first sight?

Maybe arXiv evoking the word 'archive' with an ancient Greek twist does that for some, but it's clearly a bit cryptic for many, and if the point is to open up probably the brand should just be something much plainer.

Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Post by vasco »

davnicwil wrote: post #19

Very unrelated to the article, but I think 'arXiv' as a brand is bad, and really detrimental to what the institution aims to accomplish. That is, it's not readily parseable, it really gives an insider term vibe - like this isn't for you if you don't already know what it means or how you should read or say it. It sort of reminds me of the overuse of latin and latinate terms generally in the old professions and, well,…

This the type of guy that will suggest paper.ly as a better name with a straight face and then we wonder why the internet is turning to shit

Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Post by OutOfHere »

With 300K for the CEO, its enshittification will commence imminently. It will now serve to maximize revenue. Just wait and watch while they issue a premium membership, payment requirements for authors, and other revenue generators to please their investors.

Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Post by exe34 »

OutOfHere wrote: post #26

With 300K for the CEO, its enshittification will commence imminently. It will now serve to maximize revenue. Just wait and watch while they issue a premium membership, payment requirements for authors, and other revenue generators to please their investors.

they'll just turn into a shitty journal at this point, they just need to introduce peer review and they can start competing with the real journals on price point.

another will need to rise to take its place.

Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Post by mastermage »

auggierose wrote: post #14
p-e-w wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s so important, in fact, that there should be more than one such institution. People keep falling into the same trap. They love monopolies, then are shocked when those monopolies jerk them around.

I am using Zenodo for a while now instead. It is more user friendly, as well.

Zenodo is more for IT Papers and also datasets isn't it?
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