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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Post by ai_fry_ur_brain »

tw1984 wrote: post #767
ren_engineer wrote: post #586

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somebody looked at Claude Code's binaries and Anthropic is testing out their own app platform called antspace. Not sure why people are shocked, they've been cloning features of their API customers and adding them to their core products since day 1. Makes sense they will take user data and do it for Claude Code by copying features or buying up what developers are using so they can lock people into a stack. These are t…

> this type of stuff really makes me doubt their AGI claims, why would they bother with this stuff if they were confident of having AGI within the next few years? because AGI doesn't grow in a cage, it requires a piece of software running somewhere. someone has to build both to get that happen. that is like a high school level question.

Typical llm user, thinks they're a genius.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Post by stuaxo »

larodi wrote: post #749
tasuki wrote: post #685

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Ahaha, I feel this comment. I used to do backend development in superior languages, and sometimes do hobby frontend in superior languages, but my work is Python now. And it kind of has to be Python: we do machine learning, and I work with GDAL and PDAL and all these other weird libraries and everything has Python bindings! I search for "coherent point drift" and of course there's a Python library. The superior langua…

relax, soon u be rewriting the essence of all these libs into something new. python has its days numbered also perhaps for many engineering decisions that are now cheap via llms.

The LLMs write bad python as easily as any other language.

To make it good, you need to review and interate.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Post by BoorishBears »

pprotas wrote: post #379
alex_suzuki wrote: post #158

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Same here. I’ve adopted uv across all of my Python projects and couldn’t be happier. ty looks very promising as well. Probably inevitable, and I don’t blame the team, I just wish it were someone else.

Monkey paw curls tight Microsoft acquires Astral Wish comes with a cost

That'd be fine, MS is a blue-chip

I'm not worried about OpenAI messing up uv, I'm worried about OpenAI running out of money and cutting an unnecessary team.

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Post by dheatov »

looneysquash wrote: post #525

I don't get it. Why buy Astral? Why not just fund it? Why not just hire the company to do whatever work you want to get out of the team as part of the merger? Why buy, when they can rent? (Not to mention, multiple companies could hire and fund them.)

They don't really care or like what Astral is doing right now, but they have thoughts about what they can make Astral do for them, and they really fancy those thoughts.

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Post by pabs3 »

vaylian wrote: post #579
mountainriver wrote: post #472

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What language is universally better than Python? I don't think Python is perfect, but it is definitely one of the best languages out there. It is elegant and it is has a huge ecosystem of libraries, frameworks and tutorials. There is a lot of battle-tested software in Python that is running businesses.

Maybe something with dependent typing like Idris2 or a future Haskell release?

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Post by SergeAx »

rob wrote: post #248
druml wrote: post #209

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Small tool shop, burning VC money, true. "Tiny part of the Python ecosystem" is an understatement given how much impact uv has made alone.

Just a tiny project with over 100 million downloads every month, over 4 million every day. No big deal. Just a small shop, don't overstate its importance. https://pypistats.org/packages/uv

Not including direct downloads via the native installers, Homebrew, Winget, or Docker, mind you.

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Post by y1n0 »

quadrifoliate wrote: post #553
y1n0 wrote: post #491

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We have some kind of simple pip repo that is private where I work. What would astral bring to the table?

How many people use that simple pip repo daily? If the number is not in the high hundreds, or a few thousands; maybe nothing. But once you get up there, any kind of better coordination layer is useful enough to pay money to a third party for, unless maintaining a layer over pip is your core competency.

Close to a thousand I’m sure.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Post by eviks »

johnisgood wrote: post #545
eviks wrote: post #542

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The same things that prevented "community" from building the tool in the first place

Cannot we at one point consider the tool to be "done"? I mean, what is there to constantly change and improve? Genuinely curious. It sounds like a tool that can be finished. Can it not be?

So why isn't pip done?

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Post by fud101 »

Well this sucks. So the most evil new company has acquired the most exciting 'open' source company. The vibes are about to get bad. Hopefully this speeds up the next phase of AI destroying the economy and everything good about tech.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Post by mrbombastic »

butlike wrote: post #295
ziml77 wrote: post #145

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I really hope they don't kill off uv or turn it into some way to sell OpenAI services. But I suspect that's exactly what's going to happen :(

I don't know. yarn never really turned into a vehicle to sell Facebook, though you always kind of transiently knew it was FB that offered it. I imagine that sort of transient advertising is it's own value, too.

As much as I dislike facebook they have been pretty good stewards of their open source projects and mostly seem to let them stay isolated.
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