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4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Not so slowly. They've gone from a more or less respectable smaller country to more or less politically, culturally, and economically irrelevant in less than 10 years. I even question whether it's rational to allow them to have nukes; they should probably be required to give them up to some country that has a shot at remaining a stable and predictable geopolitical entity over the next century.

It’s kind of sad to read your arrogant and xenophobic rantings. I’m not sure you’re really down for the sort of inclusive and open minded discussion that normally takes place here.

Living here the decline is tangible. And this is West Oxfordshire; not one of the poorer parts of the country.

An example in microcosm: a local village suffered road flooding due to failed maintenance of water pipes. Our rent-seeking privatized water company effected the minimum repair required by regulation.

The next section of old pipe burst almost immediately, flooding the road further for most of January, utterly destroying the surface, through the road base in many places. Even at a crawl it's difficult to avoid tyre damage.

Over a month later the water repairs were effected. Then shortly after some local roadwork notification signs were put up.

Those expecting repairs to the moonscaped road were disappointed: instead the relentless bureaucracy of British local government installed traffic calming measures on top of the broken road, as the work had already been booked and could not be stopped by any means as even basic roadworks lack any degree of dynamism in their execution.

All this still needs to be made right. These small scale failures will compound and compound until the entire state is drowned in the consequence of its incompetence.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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I think anyone running a website should avoid visiting the UK from now on.

A gf asked to go on a trip to England/Ireland and I told her I will go to Brazil or Colombia before I go to the UK. Im not going to risk getting in trouble because I made a post online or discussed immigration or trans people in the wrong way according to them.

Not like good ole America where you can get arrested for mocking Charlie Kirk.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Which does nothing to block 4chan, because everyone knows what a VPN is and how to get one.

Unlike other websites though, VPNs are generally banned from posting on 4chan, which would definitely hurt traffic.

Yes but the number of 4chan passes would skyrocket to be able to post with a VPN.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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The user mails you a box with a note that says "1kg of 4chan packets pls", and a prepaid return label to an address local to you . You put the packets in the box and kick it down the street to its "destination". Job done as far as you know. The place you sent the box then repacks it and mails it to the UK. Somehow the UK thinks that you and only you have broken the law.

Not actually how TCP/IP works though.

Can you elaborate? The metaphor is a good description of how a VPN works, if not plain old TCP/IP.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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4chan is already on most of the adult content filters used in the UK at ISP level (along with other such egregious offenders against childhood purity as archive.org) meaning that an explicit request to remove the filter is often required to access it... That it has taken this long to implement a universal block at the ISP level shows that the motive is something other than 'protecting the innocent'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kin...

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

#366

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A gf asked to go on a trip to England/Ireland and I told her I will go to Brazil or Colombia before I go to the UK. Im not going to risk getting in trouble because I made a post online or discussed immigration or trans people in the wrong way according to them.

> "Im not going to risk getting in trouble because I made a post online or discussed immigration or trans people in the wrong way according to them." This is a mis-truth which has been spread by Joe Rogan and his ilk. Political speech is very much protected in UK law. You won't get in "trouble" if you make posts against immigration or trans people. J.K. Rowling and Ricky Gervais certainly haven't been locked up. Yes,…

> Political speech is very much protected in UK law

With "protected political speech" being defined as which flavour of the established, incompetent elite you prefer this year.

People have been arrested in the UK for holding blank signs within vicinity of Palestine marches. People have been arrested over protesting Charles' coronation. To say nothing of thousands of people arrested every year over tweets.

Political speech is basically criminalised in the UK at this point. This is not an establishment worth any of our respect.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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If it wasn't for 4Chan, we might never have solved the Haruhi problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpermutation#Lower_bounds,... I used to go on a curated version of 4Chan via Telegram. Yes there is a lot of racism (although it flies in every direction, between every ethnicity you could imagine) but there is also (due to the anonymous nature) some genuinely interesting discussions. I remember one thread about ai…

>There was a guy in Greece who had found out that as long as he never graduated, he could live a basic life for free at university.

I remember him. Sadly he got evicted in the end. F.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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> Ofcom really thinks that their laws apply globally. The cries of a long-since-dead empire slowly fading into geopolitical irrelevance.

Not so slowly. They've gone from a more or less respectable smaller country to more or less politically, culturally, and economically irrelevant in less than 10 years. I even question whether it's rational to allow them to have nukes; they should probably be required to give them up to some country that has a shot at remaining a stable and predictable geopolitical entity over the next century.

Their cultural decline seems to have definitely accelerated recently. Even 10-15 years ago it seemed like there was so much more British influence in the media, a lot more films and television set in Britain. It seems like the London Olympics were a kind of last hurrah. Even here in Australia which has always historically had more British influence than anywhere else it's receded - there's very little focus on their internal politics, much more on the politics and culture of the United States, even more than you'd expect given the population difference.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Ofcom is currently threatening a Canadian forum that exists to help people with depression. Ofcom claims that geoblocking blocking the UK is "insufficient": > I've also gone back to Ofcom explicitly telling them the UK was now geoblocked (twice now) and I received a response that this was insufficient. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/1rk690v/i_ru... Ofcom really thinks that their laws apply gl…

>Ofcom really thinks that their laws apply globally.

Ofcom is probably full of non technical people who have been given a specific set of (stupid) instructions including that if its on the internet, its a product being sold to the UK.

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