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Re: Waymo Safety Impact

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Post by sbuttgereit »

Detrytus wrote: post #5

Someone once said that this is because Waymos are novelty, and they still behave a bit weird, like being slow and undecisive. Which leads to humans being super-careful around them. So the Waymo safety record is actually not their own achievement. I guess we'll have to wait to one of the two things to happen to really assess Waymo's performance: 1. They need to lose their markings and easily distinguishable features (…

"Someone once said ..."

Someone also once said that the Azores are the remains of Atlantis. I simply didn't put any credence in it.

While behavioral changes around a self-driving car are plausible; they're common enough now that, at least where I live in San Francisco, regular human drivers should be pretty well acclimated to them.

Re: Waymo Safety Impact

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Post by jaesonaras »

I just watched a short that said some (all) Waymo drivers are not autonomous, but remote controlled by humans in the Phillipines.

I'm sure it's a combination of both since the latency would mean immediate reactions are impossible, but the presenter raised an interesting point, and that was that the remote drivers are not licensed to drive in the states that Waymo operated in, which would make it illegal.

Re: Waymo Safety Impact

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Post by TimTheTinker »

jjav wrote: post #95
TimTheTinker wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, agreed. Though speed limits higher than 75 are not something I will ever support.* * Unless we're talking about removing a speed limit altogether and regulating unsafe driving using other criteria.

What happens at 76mph?

Same thing that happens at 77mph :)

I think 75 is memorable and roughly in the region where the tradeoff between increased kinetic energy and decreased time to arrival per additional unit of velocity becomes untenable.

Re: Waymo Safety Impact

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Post by keeganpoppen »

jaesonaras wrote: post #102

I just watched a short that said some (all) Waymo drivers are not autonomous, but remote controlled by humans in the Phillipines. I'm sure it's a combination of both since the latency would mean immediate reactions are impossible, but the presenter raised an interesting point, and that was that the remote drivers are not licensed to drive in the states that Waymo operated in, which would make it illegal.

except for the overwhelming evidence from video we already have that waymos are reacting than a human in the driver’s seat would, much less someone 200ms away.

Re: Waymo Safety Impact

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

Toutouxc wrote: post #67
leovander wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make sure to never be in a hurry to get anywhere because you might then get stuck behind a fleet of them going exactly the speed limit, grid locking you in.

Is this something that I’m too European to understand? How do you get “stuck” behind someone doing the speed limit?

Because American drivers have normalized always driving 10 mph (16 km/h) over the speed limit.

Cops won't pull you over or write tickets if you're not at least 15 mph over, we basically don't have speed cameras, everyone's trying to win the rat race and dehumanizing other cars around them, and it's not considered morally wrong (by most) to break that specific part of the law.

So a single vehicle obeying the law will quickly get a long line of tailgaters and tailgaters of tailgaters trying to "push" the vehicle to go faster.

They can suck it, I'm not late or in a hurry, and my ancient truck, steel bumper, and class 5 receiver hitch will not be badly harmed by your plastic grille. I get better gas mileage and have a longer stopping distance when I drive the limit, and I don't care if others are honking or riding my ass because they think I should drive faster.

Re: Waymo Safety Impact

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Post by Analemma_ »

georgemcbay wrote: post #86
jjmarr wrote: post #53

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Waymo saved my life in LA. When I visited LA, I rode in a Waymo going the speed limit in the right lane on a very busy street. The Waymo approached an intersection where it had the right of way, when suddenly a car ignored its stop sign and drove into the road. In less than a second, the Waymo moved into the left lane and kept going. I didn't even realize what was happening until after it was over. Most human drivers…

> I was listening to an advertisement at the time of my near-death experience. You'll probably never forget that advertisement, which is an exciting business opportunity for Waymo. They could partner with Spotify and other media content partners so that the Waymo can generate an adrenaline-rush near crash experience when a premium advertiser's ad is playing. /s (hopefully)

This is one of those comments that made me laugh nervously. It's straight out of Ubik or another PKD novel, which probably means it's less than 5 years away from being real.

Re: Waymo Safety Impact

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Post by whatever1 »

Taek wrote: post #85
jjmarr wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waymo saved my life in LA. When I visited LA, I rode in a Waymo going the speed limit in the right lane on a very busy street. The Waymo approached an intersection where it had the right of way, when suddenly a car ignored its stop sign and drove into the road. In less than a second, the Waymo moved into the left lane and kept going. I didn't even realize what was happening until after it was over. Most human drivers…

> Unfortunately, the Waymo only supported Spotify and did not work with my YouTube Music subscription, so I was listening to an advertisement at the time of my near-death experience. 4.5 stars overall. This detail sent me, it's crazy that we can pay $25 to have a life saving robot take us across the city yet Spotify is going to blast ads at us the whole time for the sake of making an extra $0.18 (yes that's the actua…

Imagine your last thing in your mind being an ad about mongoDB.
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