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Peter Thiel, Bill Gates, Khosla fund LightSail Energy in $37M Deal

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Re: Peter Thiel, Bill Gates, Khosla fund LightSail Energy in $37M Deal

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Congrats to DaniFong and the rest of the LightSail team. Large scale energy storage is an unappreciated problem. Our current grid has to quickly scale up and down with demand, because there is no way store excess capacity when demand is down (and therefore, no way to reuse previous excess capacity when demand is up). When this problem is actually solved (crossing fingers until LightSail actually ships ...), the grid…

I think there are many more players than you hear about, in this space. The company I work for builds distributed, large-scale energy storage (I work on the management and monitoring system that controls the "distributed" part), though we're relatively unknown right now. There are several other companies that we're aware of, all shipping products today and beginning to carve out parts of the market with relatively li…

Good luck with your company! Management of the systems is a seriously underappreciated and difficult problem, especially with batteries. To do it well, you have to really know the chemistry.

I think the difference in fanfare is probably because, unless you change the levelized cost of stored energy to be less than the cost of producing power from fossil fuels in the first place, you can have a significant effect, but you can't really change the way the mainstream grid operates. Existing technologies can't do that.

The companies that have staked their reputation on trying to climb that mountain are those which have attracted the likes of Vinod Khosla, Peter Thiel, Bill Gates -- who are not in it to make a buck or megabuck, but to change the world.

Management and monitoring is an important part of changing the world, but whether or not it happens depends on the cost of the system. The suspense, then, and pressure, is on us. But all players stand to play an important part -- and make a fortune.

Re: Peter Thiel, Bill Gates, Khosla fund LightSail Energy in $37M Deal

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Why did DoE reject them?

A knee-jerk reaction by poorly informed and motivated reviewers, which included a fear of:

- Hydrolock (solved by default) - Corrosion (solved) - Inability to separate water and air (easy to solve and quickly solved) - a lack of understanding that water could provide heat to air on expansion (proven...)

We actually disproved all of their claims within 2 weeks of their decision. The problem, however, is that you don't get a conversation when talking with grant agencies. So most things are misunderstood and they default to funding based on seniority.

At the time, our competitors were not taking the water based approach...

The advantage of world class investors is that, even if they disagree with you, they think for themselves, so you can actually talk to them.

Re: Peter Thiel, Bill Gates, Khosla fund LightSail Energy in $37M Deal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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How are you so awesome? Also, this is really great news. I am glad to see that you've gotten such great investors!

Shucks. I guess I just try to deal with the truths in front of and around me. And I found myself moving in important, but uncharted waters.
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