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4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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USA doesn't block websites. The FBI will seize domains after some judicial review and a court order. That's about it.

The US arrested and imprisoned the bosses of multiple UK-based gambling sites that were not only legal in the UK – they were listed on the London Stock Exchange.

"You’re taking bets from U.S. customers → you’re violating U.S. law"

This is different than 4chan allowing UK viewers to access the website at all.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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post #64

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Most Brits already have a VPN to beat off so the effect will be negligible.

"Most" is probably not accurate. I can't imagine the average middle aged individual in the UK has a VPN they use regularly. I'd be pleasantly surprised if that was the case.

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Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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After bending over backwards for US media companies in the 2000s they thought it went both ways, turns out it doesn't. Oh well, the uncensored web from my NL VPN still looks the same.

NL VPNs will bend the knee to EU regulation

One click its Algeria, or Singapore, or Canada.

We can move much faster then they can legislate.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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post #274

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I think anyone running a website should avoid visiting the UK from now on.

The UK I don't think has arrested anyone for running a website.

I don't think it's a great argument considering that the law in question is the Online Safety Act 2023.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Anyone want to sell/explain 4chan for me? I haven't thought about it at all since the last time I looked there maybe about 2 years ago. Still looks shit. What's the enduring appeal?

Modern 4chan is just a shadow of its former self. Back in the day it was a popular place on the internet where anyone could just go to and post. No verification, no captchas, minimal moderation and rules. This led mostly to chaos and illegal content being posted but sometimes that true freedom of speech and forced equality bred original, interesting discussion and hilarious memes. It was a place without points, nicknames, profiles where people could share their honest thoughts on any topic. Truly beautiful corner of the internet that I'll always remember fondly.

These days everything on the internet is controlled and monitored. Modern 4chan is hosted on cloudflare and is without any doubt "pozzed". Any illusion of real anonymity has dissolved a long time ago. Lots of bots there too. You missed it by at least 15 years.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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A gf asked to go on a trip to England/Ireland and I told her I will go to Brazil or Colombia before I go to the UK. Im not going to risk getting in trouble because I made a post online or discussed immigration or trans people in the wrong way according to them.

No chance I'd go to America, as they definitely check that sort of thing at the border now. Not sure how often that happens coming to the UK, yet.

It happens to citizens of the UK everyday, so I'm not really into finding out how tourists are treated.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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post #193
post #144

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USA doesn't block websites. The FBI will seize domains after some judicial review and a court order. That's about it.

Yes, you've just described one method the US authorities use to block websites. They also force ISPs to block IPs [0]. I feel trying to say that's not "blocking websites" is playing games with words, and the results are functionally the same to the "average" user. The fact that the US effectively claim juristiction over the root DNS system is a more a geopolitical power thing rather than a legal restriction. [0] http…

A court issued that ruling. Not an administrative agency. Pretty big difference.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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post #18

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That's true but not relevant to the spirit of the point.

It is relevant. There's a material difference between shipping material overseas and shipping it (and handling it) within the destination country. If someone mails $ProhibitedItem at a USPS to the UK, then it's the job of local UK police and/or customs to reject the parcel if it is prohibited. It's the UK's problem, de facto if not de jure, because the sender is out of reach. If someone with a UK subsidiary and local…

And on an electronic delivery, is a great firewall the equivalent of customs? And therfore the only way to enforce sovereignty?
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