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Google details new 24-hour process to sideload unverified Android apps

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Re: Google details new 24-hour process to sideload unverified Android apps

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Post by tencentshill »

janice1999 wrote: post #7
focusedone wrote: post #5

I'm generally OK with this, but the 24 hour hang time does seem a bit onerous. Most of the apps on my phone are installed from F-Droid. I guess the next time I get a new phone I'll have to wait at least 24 hours for it to become useful. I'm seriously considering Graphene for a next personal device and whatever the cheapest iOS device is for work.

The apps might not be available though. Many developers are simply stopping in the face of Google's invasive policies. I don't blame them. Say goodbye to useful apps like Newpipe.

Newpipe impedes revenue for an already free video hosting service. Google has less than zero obligation to them.

Re: Google details new 24-hour process to sideload unverified Android apps

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Post by nightpool »

largbae wrote: post #135
MishaalRahman wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>- Must enable developer mode -- some apps (e.g., banking apps) will refuse to operate and such when developer mode is on, and so if you depend on such apps, I guess you just can't sideload? Hi, I'm the community engagement manager @ Android. It's my understanding that you don't have to keep developer options enabled after you enable the advanced flow. Once you make the change on your device, it's enabled. If you tur…

May I use ADB or Developer mode to disable the one-day period?

Yes, ADB disables the 1-day period.

Re: Google details new 24-hour process to sideload unverified Android apps

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Post by prmoustache »

ninininino wrote: post #74
xnx wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> some apps (e.g., banking apps) will refuse to operate and such when developer mode is on JFC. Why would an app be allowed to know this? Just another datapoint for fingerprinting.

Because estimates suggest Americans lose about $119 billion annually to financial scams, which is a not insignificant fraction of our entire military budget, or more than 5% of annual social security expenditures.

That is unrelated to apps installed outside of the playstore (which by the way is full of malware).

It is like mandating that people use rainjackets in the rain to avoid getting cancer.

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Post by grishka »

gkoberger wrote: post #221
grishka wrote: post #87

At this point I'm convinced that there's something deeply wrong with how our society treats technology. Ruining Android for everyone to try to maybe help some rather technologically-hopeless groups of people is the wrong solution. It's unsustainable in the long run. Also, the last thing this world needs right now is even more centralization of power. Especially around yet another US company. People who are unwilling…

I “get” technology so I understand how you got here. But this is the wrong take. I expect to go to a restaurant and not die from the food… and I want nothing to do with the inner workings of the kitchen. I just want to know any restaurant I go into will be safe. Society has made restaurants safe, either because of government pressure or it’s good for business. How is that not a fair ask for technology, too? We all ha…

Your analogy doesn't work here. Going to a restaurant is like using an app store. Installing apks is like cooking at home. Nothing stops you from cooking a meal that will get you sick.

Now imagine that every restaurant in your city is owned by one of two megacorporations and they really don't want you to have a microwave at home, let alone a stove. They expect that you will get all your food from them. This is where it's going with apps right now.

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Post by themacguffinman »

grishka wrote: post #87

At this point I'm convinced that there's something deeply wrong with how our society treats technology. Ruining Android for everyone to try to maybe help some rather technologically-hopeless groups of people is the wrong solution. It's unsustainable in the long run. Also, the last thing this world needs right now is even more centralization of power. Especially around yet another US company. People who are unwilling…

How is it unsustainable when iOS has enforced even stricter rules for its nearly 20 year lifespan?

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Post by bityard »

Welp, I guess my current Android phone will be my last one.

At least half of the apps I use on a daily basis come from f-droid. This enforced 24-hour wait is simply not acceptable. Android has always been a far inferior overall user experience compared to iPhone. Android's _only_ saving grace was that I could put my own third-party open-source apps on it. There is nothing left keeping me on Android now.

I'll probably get an iPhone next, but I do sincerely hope this hastens progress on a real "Linux phone" for the rest of us. Plasma Mobile (https://plasma-mobile.org) looks very nice indeed. I'll be more than happy to contribute to development and funding.

Re: Google details new 24-hour process to sideload unverified Android apps

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

viktorcode wrote: post #259

Judging by the comments sideloading plays a major part in everyone's life. What apps do you sideload guys? Why those apps are not in a store?

Would Obtainium continue to work? I like the freedom of entrusting developers I know and installing APKs from repositories instead of restricting myself to app stores whose publishers have to be identified and approved by an advertising company.

Can I keep this freedom?

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