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Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Anthropic provides subsidized access to Claude models through Claude Code. It is well understood to be 'a loss leader' so that they can incentivize people to use Claude Code. OpenCode lets people take the Claude-Code-only-API-Key, and lets them use it in a different harness. Anthropic's preferred way for such interaction is getting a different, Claude API key (and not Claude Code SDK API key). --- A rough analogy mig…

> It is well understood to be 'a loss leader' You have zero proof for this claim. It's like people read somewhere that stuff and keep spitting it out again and again without understanding..

It's not a loss leader - as in they're not making a loss on the subscription.

Because they control the harness(es) and the backend, they can optimise caching and thus the costs to them.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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I still think Anthropic should've bought Clawdbot/OpenClaw. Feels like a missed business opportunity to expand your market share by capitalizing on the hype.

Why should they pay money for such crappy software?

Does your employer use Salesforce? Crappy software is practically the only software that anybody really pays for.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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This seems like pure misinformation. The code lines that are actually changed: hint: { opencode: "recommended", -anthropic: "API key", openai: "ChatGPT Plus/Pro or API key", }[x.id], They're removing the ability to use OpenCode via Anthropic API key

Is this what the legal request demanded or is this just something that OpenCode is doing out of spite? Seems unclear. To me the meat of this change is that they're removing support for `opencode-anthropic-auth` and the prompt text that allows OpenCode to mimic Claude Code behavior. They have been skirting the intent of the original C&D for awhile now with these auth plugins and prompt text.

Anthropic's issue was always them spoofing OpenCode as Claude Code, piggybacking on the subscription plan.

Banning them from using the pay-per-token API key would be bad business.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Dario has stated multiple times he doesn't believe there is any value in open-weight models. Not surprised. This is not the behavior of an innovative company - it is fear-driven. They are seeing a rapidly shrinking moat.

This exactly. Kimi 2.5 has coding performance hardly discernible from Claude. The only way to maintain a business edge is to crush open source clients to force people into a closed ecosystem. Once there, create context moat where people are not in control of their own context data (cannot export it to open tooling). Maybe we can call it the Oracle play? It’ll be interesting to see if companies get tricked. I think it…

K2.5 is dog shit compared to leading OAI/Ant models.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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I'm really struggling to understand how Anthropic is benefited by not allowing this. Its bad PR for no good reason. The only thing I can figure is that Claude Code is hemorrhaging money, they're too afraid to actually enforce reasonable token limits, and the only thing that's keeping it from totally bankrupting the company tomorrow is: controlling the harness and having the harness dynamically route toward Haiku or S…

also for economic reason. Anthropic design Claude code so they are in control regarding how token get burned. To a degree. With 3rd party, designers have not incentive to be token consumption conscious. Gemini has a 1M token context, flash can be used for free via the web interface, can't paste more than handful thousands token.

> With 3rd party, designers have not incentive to be token consumption conscious.

How? If I used open code I'd hope it to not eat tokens unnecessarily so my subscription quota lasts longer.

I add 'only do this if...' to every single skill I write. It's a bit of voodoo-style wishful thinking, I admit.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Dario has stated multiple times he doesn't believe there is any value in open-weight models. Not surprised. This is not the behavior of an innovative company - it is fear-driven. They are seeing a rapidly shrinking moat.

This exactly. Kimi 2.5 has coding performance hardly discernible from Claude. The only way to maintain a business edge is to crush open source clients to force people into a closed ecosystem. Once there, create context moat where people are not in control of their own context data (cannot export it to open tooling). Maybe we can call it the Oracle play? It’ll be interesting to see if companies get tricked. I think it…

Which "Claude"? Sonnet, Opus? With which harness are you comparing the coding performance?

Nowadays the harness matters more than the model itself. For example pi.dev + GPT5-codex is a lot smarter than plain codex cli

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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post #129
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic provides subsidized access to Claude models through Claude Code. It is well understood to be 'a loss leader' so that they can incentivize people to use Claude Code. OpenCode lets people take the Claude-Code-only-API-Key, and lets them use it in a different harness. Anthropic's preferred way for such interaction is getting a different, Claude API key (and not Claude Code SDK API key). --- A rough analogy mig…

> It is well understood to be 'a loss leader' You have zero proof for this claim. It's like people read somewhere that stuff and keep spitting it out again and again without understanding..

If it wasn't the case, the Claude API pricing would be the same, $200 for unlimited use. But it's metered.

We don't know if Claude Code bleeds money for every user that touches it. Probably not. But the different pricing is a strong enough clue that it's an appeal product with subsidized tokens consumption.

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