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Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Post by ahmadyan »

extr wrote: post #48
tietjens wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not my impression, could you explain what you're talking about?

Ever since the shutdown of the side-load they've been pretty vocally anti-anthropic on twitter. Paranoid that anthropic is going to torpedo them via some backdoor now that they own bun, insinuating that anthropic shut down the auth from a position of weakness since OpenCode is a superior product, etc. The thing is OpenCode IS a great product, I'm not sure it's "superior", but unfortunately the way things are evolving…

opencode is a very meh agent.

Source: i run pretty much all of these agents (codex, cc, droid, opencode, amp, etc) side-by-side in agentastic.dev and opencode had basically 0 win-rate over other agents.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Post by doc_ick »

LZ_Khan wrote: post #57
mellosouls wrote: post #2

This and threatening OpenClaw (now at OpenAI), Anthropic really on a roll making friends in Open Source. Previously discussed I think: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode (173 points, 157 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46625918

Is open source really open source if it can be bought by big companies and manipulated freely? Technically one day it can just be pulled off github.

*What makes you think it hasn’t already been pulled/used in training from GitHub?

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Post by extr »

croes wrote: post #67
extr wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever since the shutdown of the side-load they've been pretty vocally anti-anthropic on twitter. Paranoid that anthropic is going to torpedo them via some backdoor now that they own bun, insinuating that anthropic shut down the auth from a position of weakness since OpenCode is a superior product, etc. The thing is OpenCode IS a great product, I'm not sure it's "superior", but unfortunately the way things are evolving…

Why does Anthropic care how the tokens are consumed?

Why does Netflix care how the movies they stream to you are consumed? Shouldn't your $8/mo allow you to stream any movie to OpenFlix and consume however you like?

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Post by cedws »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #63
cedws wrote: post #16

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This argument has been decapitated countless times already on HN. Anthropic already enforce usage limits for everyone . If those limits are higher than what they want users to actually consume, that's Anthropic's problem. This move is anti-competitive and Anthropic knows it. They're hurriedly trying to lock the gates and lay landmines behind everyone after a massive surge of new subscribers so that they're stuck usin…

I hate these non lawyer HN takes that call anything they don’t like “anti competitive”. Let’s just start with looking up “no duty to deal”.

I don't mean anti-competitive in the legal sense of the word, I mean that it literally is hostile to competition.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Post by sifex »

anonym29 wrote: post #8

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The people mad about this feel they are entitled to the heavily subsidized usage in any context they want, not in the context explicitly allowed by the subsidizer. It's kind of like a new restaurant started handing out coupons for "90% off", wanting to attract diners to the restaurant, customers started coming in and ordering bulk meals then immediately packaging them in tup…

Except to me, the argument is like a customer bringing their own plate to eat off of, and the restaurant then sues the customer and demands that no restaurant can ever be allowed to use that customers plate.

Opencode to a lot of people is a nicer and more feature rich harness than CC, it doesn’t consume any more tokens than CC, and if it did, the bounds of how many tokens each account is allowed to use is tied to the users payment and rate limits.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Post by ForHackernews »

croes wrote: post #67
extr wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever since the shutdown of the side-load they've been pretty vocally anti-anthropic on twitter. Paranoid that anthropic is going to torpedo them via some backdoor now that they own bun, insinuating that anthropic shut down the auth from a position of weakness since OpenCode is a superior product, etc. The thing is OpenCode IS a great product, I'm not sure it's "superior", but unfortunately the way things are evolving…

Why does Anthropic care how the tokens are consumed?

Because they're selling discounted tokens to use with their tooling.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Post by linux2647 »

runako wrote: post #59
mellosouls wrote: post #2

This and threatening OpenClaw (now at OpenAI), Anthropic really on a roll making friends in Open Source. Previously discussed I think: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode (173 points, 157 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46625918

> threatening OpenClaw IIRC it was called Clawdbot when Anthropic complained. IANAL but I believe the holder of a trademark is obligated to defend it against infringement. Hard to say that Clawdbot was not potentially infringing, given its purpose. It's not clear how much leeway Anthropic had given his initial choice of name.

I still think Anthropic should've bought Clawdbot/OpenClaw. Feels like a missed business opportunity to expand your market share by capitalizing on the hype.

Re: Anthropic takes legal action against OpenCode

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Post by estearum »

croes wrote: post #67
extr wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever since the shutdown of the side-load they've been pretty vocally anti-anthropic on twitter. Paranoid that anthropic is going to torpedo them via some backdoor now that they own bun, insinuating that anthropic shut down the auth from a position of weakness since OpenCode is a superior product, etc. The thing is OpenCode IS a great product, I'm not sure it's "superior", but unfortunately the way things are evolving…

Why does Anthropic care how the tokens are consumed?

Same reason movie theaters care about you not bringing your own snacks
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