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4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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4chan's lawyer's response: "In the only country in which 4chan operates, the United States, it is breaking no law and indeed its conduct is expressly protected by the First Amendment."[0] [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c624330lg1ko

And now we'll watch the UK take the logical next step which is for the government to mandate that all ISPs in the country block 4chan. CCP "Great Firewall" style.

We've had Hadrian's firewall blocking certain piracy sites for years.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As shown in that same article, they also responded: >>> "Companies – wherever they're based – are not allowed to sell unsafe toys to children in the UK. And society has long protected youngsters from things like alcohol, smoking and gambling. The digital world should be no different," she said. "The UK is setting new standards for online safety. Age checks and risk assessments are cornerstones of our laws, and we'll…

Their goal is to create a presedent so they can start applying it to platforms they don't like. Its happening all over Europe not just the UK and the plan is clear. They want to repress discourse that is not officially sanctioned.

They can try to set whatever precedent they like. But US courts won't accept the argument, so it'll just stay a fee that accumulates on some paper ledger.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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The response from Ofcom doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. If you are to sell a toy in the UK you must be a British company. (and must pay VAT and comply with British safety standards). If a consumer buys from overseas and imports a product then they do not have British consumer protections. Which is why so much aliexpress electrical stuff is dangerous (expecially USB chargers) yet it continues to be legally imported. Jus…

Is it correct to say the consumer is importing a product when it's aliexpress shipping it to them?

yes, aliexpress would not be shipping it if the consumer did not order it.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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UK fining an American company for this is absurd. 4Chan isn't breaking any laws. You can make it illegal for your own citizens but you can't regulate a foreign business. UK citizens should fight for the right to free speech though.

This is false. You of course can regulate and fine a foreign business. That's how trade regulations work. The UK isn't going to get a cent from that but the leadership is banned from entering the UK for the foreseeable future. Doing this a lot as a country is how you achieve pariah status and losing a bunch of trade, though.

> the leadership is banned from entering the UK for the foreseeable future

Not at all. But if they do enter, they might find difficulty leaving.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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4chan's lawyer's response: "In the only country in which 4chan operates, the United States, it is breaking no law and indeed its conduct is expressly protected by the First Amendment."[0] [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c624330lg1ko

It's unfortunate that the US lawyers did not cite the reply given in Arkell v Pressdram.

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As shown in that same article, they also responded: >>> "Companies – wherever they're based – are not allowed to sell unsafe toys to children in the UK. And society has long protected youngsters from things like alcohol, smoking and gambling. The digital world should be no different," she said. "The UK is setting new standards for online safety. Age checks and risk assessments are cornerstones of our laws, and we'll…

Their goal is to create a presedent so they can start applying it to platforms they don't like. Its happening all over Europe not just the UK and the plan is clear. They want to repress discourse that is not officially sanctioned.

The real goal it to start banning US sites like fb,aws etc so that Europe starts building their own

Re: 4Chan mocks £520k fine for UK online safety breaches

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UK fining an American company for this is absurd. 4Chan isn't breaking any laws. You can make it illegal for your own citizens but you can't regulate a foreign business. UK citizens should fight for the right to free speech though.

How about the EU imposing GDPR restrictions on non-eu companies?

The GDPR is about your data being handled overseas.

OFCOM&co is about overseas data going to you.

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