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An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD

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Re: An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD

#3
> a compromise would be needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests (which of course they are entitled to pursue as the rights holder)

No, fuck 'em. They had nothing to do with developing the game, and in a sane copyright structure a thirty-year-old work would be public domain by now.

Re: An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD

#4
I'm sure I'm missing some context but what is Atari's role here exactly? Isn't OpenTTD an independent and fully legal project? What is Atari's basis for asking for a "compromise"?

Or is it just the case that the project maintainers got paid off?

Re: An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD

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post #3

> a compromise would be needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests (which of course they are entitled to pursue as the rights holder) No, fuck 'em. They had nothing to do with developing the game, and in a sane copyright structure a thirty-year-old work would be public domain by now.

Well, they shouldn't be entitled but they are entitled.

Re: An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD

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post #3

> a compromise would be needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests (which of course they are entitled to pursue as the rights holder) No, fuck 'em. They had nothing to do with developing the game, and in a sane copyright structure a thirty-year-old work would be public domain by now.

Agreed. Publishers need to be knocked off this absurd moral high ground. If merely being rich is enough for me to profit off of Miles Davis songs for decades after his death, copyright is just another wealth redistribution to the rich. Steal all the games and music, and any ghoul that claims I’m stifling creativity can compare their compositions to mine.

Re: An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD

#7
> we have not been “pressured” by Atari to make these changes.

> Atari approached us to explain their plans for the Transport Tycoon Deluxe re-release, and what it might mean for OpenTTD.

> we understood that a compromise would be needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests […] against the availability of a free, well-developed evolution of the game.

Sounds to me like you were pressured by Atari to make these changes.

Re: An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD

#9

I'm glad that Atari was willing to compromise at all. I'm happy with the updated response, and hope that it helps others understand the nuance of the situation. Anyone can still go download the main release from the official site.

How are people supposed to understand the "nuance of the situation" when they aren't even sharing it? What is the problem to begin with? Why can't both projects continue to exist independently?

Re: An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD

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post #7

> we have not been “pressured” by Atari to make these changes. > Atari approached us to explain their plans for the Transport Tycoon Deluxe re-release, and what it might mean for OpenTTD. > we understood that a compromise would be needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests […] against the availability of a free, well-developed evolution of the game. Sounds to me like you were pressured by Atari to make these chan…

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