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Pentagon asks for $200bn for Iran War

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Re: Pentagon asks for $200bn for Iran War

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Post by calvinmorrison »

sebmellen wrote: post #6

“Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia” But on a more serious non-political note, what is the end game here? It's not hard to see a future with a barren and destroyed landscape of Middle Eastern energy infrastructure, where neither the Gulf states nor Iran can reliably produce and export their energy due to continual risk. The US can never fully defang Iran, unless it…

that's a huge boon for US dominance actually. Exporting oil for $$$, china having no way to get massive quantities of cheap oil, etc.

Re: Pentagon asks for $200bn for Iran War

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Post by toast0 »

basisword wrote: post #5

I thought it wasn't a war until congress approves it?

I think the country isn't officially at war without an act of congress, but whether a conflict is a war is probably a property of the conflict and not government declarations of the beligerants or the legallity of their participation.

Anyway, the Department of Whatever its name is needs money.

Re: Pentagon asks for $200bn for Iran War

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Post by simion314 »

makeitrain wrote: post #4

Should probably ask Congress for permission as well?

Ask Elon Musk, he has an AI that he can use to cut money from the poor ang give it to Trump family and his billionaire pedo friends to continue this war, true genius negotiation this Trump, in fact I can't believe he did not received the Nobel Peace Prize.

Seriously what is in MAGA heads now, they voted this guy because they claimed Biden was spending money on wars like helping Ukraine, and now the peace maker, Trump needs a ton of money for his own wars.

Re: Pentagon asks for $200bn for Iran War

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Post by sebmellen »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #11
sebmellen wrote: post #6

“Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia” But on a more serious non-political note, what is the end game here? It's not hard to see a future with a barren and destroyed landscape of Middle Eastern energy infrastructure, where neither the Gulf states nor Iran can reliably produce and export their energy due to continual risk. The US can never fully defang Iran, unless it…

that's a huge boon for US dominance actually. Exporting oil for $$$, china having no way to get massive quantities of cheap oil, etc.

Russia and the US, from a “market share” standpoint, will be massive benefactors… but the knock-on effects of having a crippled global energy economy will be significant.

As much as it may seem like a narrow political win for the US to prevent Chinese access to energy infrastructure, China will continue to electrify. At the same time, the US is still massively dependent on shipping and industrial outputs from China.

It's all entangled. As are the interests of most energy companies.

Re: Pentagon asks for $200bn for Iran War

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Post by idiotsecant »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #11
sebmellen wrote: post #6

“Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia” But on a more serious non-political note, what is the end game here? It's not hard to see a future with a barren and destroyed landscape of Middle Eastern energy infrastructure, where neither the Gulf states nor Iran can reliably produce and export their energy due to continual risk. The US can never fully defang Iran, unless it…

that's a huge boon for US dominance actually. Exporting oil for $$$, china having no way to get massive quantities of cheap oil, etc.

Yes, foreign nation building with murky win conditions and a steadily increasing cost ledger are famously pretty good for US dominance

Re: Pentagon asks for $200bn for Iran War

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Post by dessimus »

alex_suzuki wrote: post #10
basisword wrote: post #5

I thought it wasn't a war until congress approves it?

At least it’s “ahead of schedule”!

Is it? Haven't seen POTUS on a carrier flight deck with a "Mission Accomplished" banner yet, so we got at least 15 years of war ahead.

Re: Pentagon asks for $200bn for Iran War

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Post by throw310822 »

sebmellen wrote: post #6

“Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia” But on a more serious non-political note, what is the end game here? It's not hard to see a future with a barren and destroyed landscape of Middle Eastern energy infrastructure, where neither the Gulf states nor Iran can reliably produce and export their energy due to continual risk. The US can never fully defang Iran, unless it…

The endgame is a wasteland of miserable neighbours that Israel can control, occupy and plunder without encountering any resistance. As for the US, they are not in control of their own actions, they're a puppet moved by Israel.

Re: Pentagon asks for $200bn for Iran War

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Post by bdangubic »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #11
sebmellen wrote: post #6

“Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia” But on a more serious non-political note, what is the end game here? It's not hard to see a future with a barren and destroyed landscape of Middle Eastern energy infrastructure, where neither the Gulf states nor Iran can reliably produce and export their energy due to continual risk. The US can never fully defang Iran, unless it…

that's a huge boon for US dominance actually. Exporting oil for $$$, china having no way to get massive quantities of cheap oil, etc.

China will be just fine mate :) They are smartly just watching US destroy itself from within and outside and chillin'
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