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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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This is a weird pattern accross OpenAI/Anthropic to buy startups building better toolings. I don't really see the value for OAI/Anthropic, but it's nice to know that uv (+ ty and many others) and Bun will stay maintained!

Why do you think that uv, etc. will stay maintained? They will for now, but as soon as cash is tight at OpenAI, they'll get culled so fast that you won't see it coming. This is the risk.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #304

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been in the python game a long time and i've seen so many tools in this space come and go over the years. i still rely on good ol pip and have had no issues. that said, we utilize mypy and ruff, and have moved to pyproject etc to remotely keep up with the times.

uv solved it, it will be the only tool people use in 2 more years. if you’re a python shop / expert then you can do pip etc but uv turned incidental python + deps from a huge PITA for the rest of us, to It Just Works simplicity on the same level or better than Golang.

Then can they please figure out some way of invoking it that doesnt require prefixing everything with 'uv'

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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I thought some more about it, and unfortunately it makes sense. IIRC there were several "insider" blogposts from OpenAI that said something along the lines of "Yeah almost every service we write is FastAPI"

Where can I find some of those?

here's one of them: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44573195

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #209

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Small tool shop, burning VC money, true. "Tiny part of the Python ecosystem" is an understatement given how much impact uv has made alone.

Just a tiny project with over 100 million downloads every month, over 4 million every day. No big deal. Just a small shop, don't overstate its importance. https://pypistats.org/packages/uv

The “requests” package gets downloaded one billion times every month, should that be a multi billion dollar VC company as well? It’s a package manager and other neat tooling, it’s great but it’s hardly the essence of what makes Python awesome, it’s one of the many things that makes this ecosystem flourish. If OpenAI would enshittify it people would just fork or move on, that’s all I’m saying, it’s not in any way a single point of failure for the Python ecosystem.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

uv solved it, it will be the only tool people use in 2 more years. if you’re a python shop / expert then you can do pip etc but uv turned incidental python + deps from a huge PITA for the rest of us, to It Just Works simplicity on the same level or better than Golang.

I don't want software on my computer, that just downloads and installs random stuff. This is the job of the OS in particular the package manager.

Do you use pip?

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Solid move by Altman - good signal they’re serious about capturing the Claude Code market from Anthropic. What I don’t understand is why hasn’t anyone bought Jetbrains yet. Atlassian? AWS? Google?

Because Jetbrain strategy wasn't to burn money with free tools to eventually exit with the jackpot. They have been profitable for over a decade, simply asking users to pay a fair price for great product.

Judging by all their mistakes in the last years, Russian war and AI, it’s only a matter of time until someone buys them out.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#408

Solid move by Altman - good signal they’re serious about capturing the Claude Code market from Anthropic. What I don’t understand is why hasn’t anyone bought Jetbrains yet. Atlassian? AWS? Google?

Most likely because Jetbrains is not for sale. Google almost certainly offered to buy at some point.

Never did. I remember someone replied to my comment here that Google isn’t paying a penny to JetBrains. They’re quite happy with the relationship primarily because they don’t have to pay anything. If anything, JetBrains is the one who needs Google more than the other way around.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #67

A concern: More and more plainly, OpenAI and Anthropic are making plays to own (and lease) the "means of production" in software. OK - I'm a pretty happy renter right now. As they gobble up previously open software stacks, how viable is it that these stacks remain open? It seems perfectly sensible to me that these providers and their users alike have an interest in further centralizing the dev lifecycle - eg, if Clau…

These are MIT/Apache 2. Sure they can buy and influence the direction but they can't prevent forks if they stray from what users want.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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post #67

A concern: More and more plainly, OpenAI and Anthropic are making plays to own (and lease) the "means of production" in software. OK - I'm a pretty happy renter right now. As they gobble up previously open software stacks, how viable is it that these stacks remain open? It seems perfectly sensible to me that these providers and their users alike have an interest in further centralizing the dev lifecycle - eg, if Clau…

If our corporate overlords are gonna buy up all that is good I’d rather it have been Anthropic and not that wierdo humans-need-food-and-care-for-inference-so-LLMs aren’t-that-power-hungry Sam Altman. Man that guy is weird.

Oh well. They’ll hopefully get options and make millions when the IPO happens. Everyone eventually sells out. Not everyone can be funded by MIT to live the GNU maximalist lifestyle.

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