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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any statistics for that?
anecdotally every place ive worked at has switched over and never looked back.
Same. It's game-changing - leaps and bounds above every previous attempt to make Python's packaging, dependency management, and dev workflow easy. I don't know anyone who has tried uv and not immediately thrown every other tool out the window.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would single maintainers of critical open source projects be a better situation?
Are you not aware of foundations?
The issue is lack of money not lack of legal structure.
Consider ffmpeg. You can donate via https://www.ffmpeg.org/spi.html
How much money do they make from donations? I don't know but "In practice we frequently payed for travel and hardware."
Translation: nothing at all.
If such a fundamental project that is a revenue driver for so many companies, including midas-level rich companies like Google, can't even pay decent salaries for core devs from donations, then open source model doesn't work in terms of funding the work even at the smallest possible levels of "pay a reasonable market rate for devs".
You either get people who just work for free or businesses built around free work by providing something in addition to free software (which is hard to pull off, as we've seen with Bun and Astral and Deno and Node).
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#294I see people in this thread complain about the acquisition but the source code of uv is right there [1]. Fork it and move on. If ClosedAI enshittifies uv, gather with a bunch of other people and prop up a new version.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#295great for astral, sucks for uv. was nice to have sane tooling at least for a few years, thanks for the gift.
I really hope they don't kill off uv or turn it into some way to sell OpenAI services. But I suspect that's exactly what's going to happen :(
I don't know. yarn never really turned into a vehicle to sell Facebook, though you always kind of transiently knew it was FB that offered it. I imagine that sort of transient advertising is it's own value, too.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're not buying developers, they are buying the whole ecosystem to produce software. Still aligned with their original message.
If the product did what it was advertised to do, they could simply build their own ecosystem for producing software and train the model to use it.
Or, they could use a battle-proven existing solution because they can.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#297I’ve been thinking about purchasing zsh myself
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#298Not who I would've liked to acquire Astral. As long as OpenAI doesn't force bad decisions on to Astral too hard, I'm very happy for the Astral team. They've been making some of the best Python tooling that has made the ecosystem so much better IME.
Eh, if it turns out to be too bad I guess I’ll just end up switching back to pipenv, which is the closest thing to uv (especially due to the automatic Python version management, but not as fast).
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#299While I -- like most other commenters -- am dubious of both OpenAI and this acquisition, I think it's pretty reasonable to wait to see how this turns out before rushing to final judgment.
Everything I've seen from Astral and Charlie indicates they're brilliant, caring, and overall reasonable folks. I think it's unfair to jump to call them sell-outs and cast uv and the rest as doomed projects.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#300I am very unhappy about this. Astral tools like uv are key to my work/experimenting process. I think OpenAI sucks as a company.
That said, I hope the excellent Astral team got a good payday.