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Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

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Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

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As someone who's been pushing for renewables for quite a while now it's dismaying that it's taken a war to accelerate this push, but I'm glad to see that it's happening at least. It's doubly dismaying that my own country (US) is still doubling down on fossil fuels despite everything. The concern about a new dependency on China is real, but renewables do have the advantage that once you have the infrastructure in plac…

Nobody wants to sacrifice growth today for stability tomorrow and there are good reasons why this stance makes sense.

That said I’m all for it, too bad the supply chain disruption that this mess will cause will make it twice as hard as it could’ve been.

Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

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As someone who's been pushing for renewables for quite a while now it's dismaying that it's taken a war to accelerate this push, but I'm glad to see that it's happening at least. It's doubly dismaying that my own country (US) is still doubling down on fossil fuels despite everything. The concern about a new dependency on China is real, but renewables do have the advantage that once you have the infrastructure in plac…

I've been arguing with Europeans on twitter (including an environmental scientist) who believe this war shows we need to resume drilling in the North Sea and Groningen. It feels like this collective insanity will never end

twitter is a self-selected group these days, even assuming these are real people and not some kind of propaganda op.

It's like going on stormfront and wondering why there's so many white nationalists on the internet.

Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

#153

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Burning fossil fuels also raises the global temperature, reduces air quality, and people still have to pay more at the pump.

But US mostly wins from global warming relatively, right? I mean, it's going to suffer less than others (except EU), for geographical reasons, thus winning. I don't think global warming is a concern for US at all (some places sure, Florida will be royally fucked, but not most places).

Don't forget all the states in the middle that are experiencing the worst drought in a millenium, with snowpack and river flows at record lows, all while each state is adding more people (and thus more water demand), and interstate river compacts expire, and years-long negotiations on a renewal have been fruitless.

Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

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The big story I think is how handily they took out billions of dollars of US radars and that these air defense systems are not up to the task (we actually already knew this from Ukraine, but media worked overtime to ignore this fact). In a way, all this supposedly "superior" US and Israeli tech (at least on the defense side, offense is a different story) has been exposed. I do think focused engineering efforts could…

The Israeli missile defense systems have worked amazingly well considering the scale of the threat.

Not against the fast ballistics.

Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

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> It actually works pretty well As long as you don't look at the receipts yes, technically it works very well, in every other aspect it's a massive waste of resource and money.

The war in itself? For sure, but if a million dollar rocket saves a billion dollar radar system against a 50.000 drone, it still seems working as intended.

10+ radars have been destroyed, I'm not sure which ones were "saved"

https://abcnews.com/International/us-allied-radar-sites-midd...

Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

#156
We should generate our own power on our own land with our own technology - one day it will seem like insanity that we ever outsourced our most precious resource to the other side of the world, and relied on international shipping/markets to deliver it. Solar is a miracle technology. Wind is very good. Hydro and nuclear can supply large base load. Our own oil can supply peakers. What are we doing in the middle east?

Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

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Anyone has any respect left for US Americans after they elected this? This is so ridiculous at so many levels: Not US hollywood culture or whatever Americans culturally exported in the past all around the world, but this will forever represent US Americans in my mind. That this is how they overall want to be seen and represented as all around the world, seemingly: “Israel, out of anger for what has taken place in the…

The thing is that back in 2024 Kamala didn't exactly come across as a much better option, although in hindsight she likely would have been.

Kamala was always obviously a better option than Trump. Let's not pretend people didn't know who and what Trump was, or that his behavior after 2024 came as a shock to anyone.

Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

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But why does US need any of that? It's a massive exporter of fossil fuels and will be much richer as a result (but yes just as every other way of getting richer, it will also increase inequality).

Being a net exporter of a global commodity is only relevant in an extremely acute crisis (e.g. WWIII). Plus one of the reasons why we export so much oil is because it's cheaper to import oil to a refinery in New Jersey from Saudi Arabia than to get it there from Texas due to some very stupid US laws.

Hello, could you please elaborate about those laws?

Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

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Levelised Cost of Energy is the highest, in the entire developed world , in the UK, which has enough wind and solar installed to entirely meet needs today. It is NOT cheap, it is cheap for sellers , because they account on the basis of a MWh being equally useful all the time. It isn't. There are TWh-scale shortfalls in winter because, and a medieval peasant understood this, a shortage of ambient energy is what winter…

Can you please source and explain your claims? They don't match my understanding. For example: > Levelised Cost of Energy is the highest, in the entire developed world, in the UK, which has enough wind and solar installed to entirely meet needs today. Do you mean cost per country (not levelized?)? Even then, UK energy is not the most expensive.

They can't (because LCoE is a per-project or per-technology measure, not a grid-wide measure, for a start).

UK energy is expensive because we have gas-linked wholesale pricing. That's nothing to do with the true cost of renewables. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they're being disingenuous.

(Gas-linked pricing was implemented for sensible reasons, but I don't see how it continues to be tenable today).

Re: Iran war energy shock sparks global push to reduce fossil fuel dependence

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It’s just pulling forward future gains while shrinking the time horizon, if the world speeds the transition to renewables and electrification from this. Short term gain for faster irrelevance. Oil to $200/barrel please, as long as possible, same with LNG. Edit: Iran attack wipes out 17% of Qatar’s LNG capacity for up to five years, QatarEnergy CEO says - https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/2026/03/19/iran-attack-...…

Businesses are short termist these days. They will be happy to pull forward gains. Shareholder value, right?

Certainly, but you can solve for that with windfall taxes or nationalizing the oil industry in your jurisdiction, if there is the will. Based on all available evidence, the will does not exist.

Broadly speaking, the overall system dependent on energy must adapt or die. The capital exists to decarbonize rapidly. How hard the arm must be twisted is the natural experiment to observe. In the meantime, all critical fossil assets are legitimate targets in the operating environment.

These are all choices. If you are unhappy with the outcomes of choices you have the authority to make, make better choices.

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