This might not be bad as long as Astral is allowed to continue to work on improving ty, uv and ruff. I do worry about they'll get distracted by their Codex job duties though.
Astral to Join OpenAI
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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#102Woah, first Anthropic buys Bun, now OpenAI Astral? Seems like the big AI players love buying up the good dev tooling companies. I hope this means the Astral folks can keep doing what they are doing, because I absolutely love uv (ruff is pretty nice too).
>Seems like the big AI players love buying up the good dev tooling companies. Would be a good mustache-twirling cartoon villain tactics, you know, try to prevent advances in developer experience to make vibecoding more attractive =)
It also hints even The Big Guys can’t LLM their tooling fully, and that current bleeding edge “AI” companies are doing that IT thing of making IT for IT (ie dev components, tooling, etc), instead of conquering some entire market on one continent or the other…
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#103If I were to engage in Python development, what's the alternative to uv?
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#104Reading this news only leaves me worried about long-term future of these open source tools.
I have long since found the VC model for open source questionable. If you are not selling popular enough direct enterprise support what is the model to actually make money.
Take ruff, I have used it, but I had no idea it even had a company behind it... And I must not be only one and it must not be only tool like it...
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#105This has me thinking about VS Code and VS Codium. I've used VS Code for a while now, but recently grew annoyed at the increasingly prevalent prompts to subscribe to various Microsoft AI tools. I know you can make them go away, but if you bounce between different systems, and particularly deal with installing VS Code on a regular basis, it becomes annoying.
I started using VS Codium, and it feels like using VS Code before the AI hype era. I wonder if we're going to see a commercial version of uv bloated with the things OpenAI wants us all to use, and a community version that's more like the uv we're using right now.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
mindshare and a central piece of the python package management ecosystem.
Most popular product on the planet acquires a random python packaging org for mindshare? What am I not seeing here?
"uv" is a very widely used tool in the Python ecosystem, and Python is important to AI. Calling it "a random Python packaging org" seems a bit unfair.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
mindshare and a central piece of the python package management ecosystem.
Most popular product on the planet acquires a random python packaging org for mindshare? What am I not seeing here?
I feel like it's pretty easy to predict what OpenAI is trying to do. They want their codex agent integrated directly into the most popular, foundational tooling for one of the world's most used and most influential programming languages. And, vice versa, they probably want to be able to ensure that tooling remains well-maintained so it stays on top and continues to integrate well with their agent. They want codex to become the "default" coding agent by making it the one integrated into popular open source software.
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#108Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
mindshare and a central piece of the python package management ecosystem.
Most popular product on the planet acquires a random python packaging org for mindshare? What am I not seeing here?
One of the popular products on the planet acquires the most popular python packaging org
Re: Astral to Join OpenAI
#110So, any good alternatives to uv?
pixi? https://pixi.prefix.dev/latest/
Have not tried it too much yet because I was pretty content with `uv`, but I've heard lots of good things about it