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Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Please lessen the snark and dictate what you're saying here. Sources to published docs would be even more preferable.

I'm not going to serialize the past 60 years of US foreign policy in to a pithy post on a meaningless internet forum. For free.

aw man, I thought I would finally find out whats really going on :(

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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If you want: motors, ESCs, flight controllers and radios those can be sourced from outside of China, and competitively priced too (if you're in Europe, outside you'd still have to add taxes).

Yeah tbf I wouldn't underestimate Eastern Europe. The drone industry there must be booming nowadays, pun not intended.

How?

As near as I can tell, the vast majority of the parts are made in China. When I look at the few alternatives, they're full of Chinese circuitry. If I look at circuit components, they're all made of Chinese raw materials.

Both Ukraine and Russia are planning to deploy (and use up) several million drones over the next year. Iran just joined them as a major procurer.

Where are all the US and EU component factories?

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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This is absurd in the extreme. In actual war there is absolutely no possibility of success for Denmark, even with the help of allies. Failure to capitulate results in nothing but death and destruction with no hope of strategic gain to begin with. What you are likely experiencing is a modern belief that screaming and shouting will bring popular diplomatic pressure to bear on the opponent, thus arresting their actions.…

> In an actual war there is absolutely no possibility of success for Denmark, even with the help of allies. Assume that Denmark's strategic success criteria is not "win up-front battles with US armed forces". And that they understand the difference between "lost battle(s), got occupied" and "nation permanently removed from existence". Also, US service members are not slavishly loyal Clone Troopers. That I've heard, t…

Fortunately enough Americans remember their roots. For now.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Of course they were. The United States has never before damaged its own reputation in Europe as much as they did in the last 12 months. And the same goes for Canada, possibly worse. You don't go around threatening your allies unless you really have plans and that's why you don't elect senile old guys to positions of power.

As an American, can’t say I’m too worried about Canadian opinion of us, let alone Denmark. Most Americans don’t know the name of a single politician in Denmark.

Most Americans also dont know that most of the world is laughing at us. Americans are oblivious by choice cuz we pretty eagerly consume misinformation, always have. We love our alternate histories that make us feel superior.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Yeah tbf I wouldn't underestimate Eastern Europe. The drone industry there must be booming nowadays, pun not intended.

How? As near as I can tell, the vast majority of the parts are made in China. When I look at the few alternatives, they're full of Chinese circuitry. If I look at circuit components, they're all made of Chinese raw materials. Both Ukraine and Russia are planning to deploy (and use up) several million drones over the next year. Iran just joined them as a major procurer. Where are all the US and EU component factories?

In Spain, the Netherlands and Ukraine.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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I do agree with some of your points and I believe some aspects of it might be right but there is a big difference between the past and present because this time, its America attacking EU sovereignity/other countries and so many things all at once literally within less than a year. Just count all the things that america did in the last year and try to imagine as a foreigner or foreign nation once as an exercise. All o…

I mean I definitely agree that a lot of trust has been lost, and that a lot of work will be needed to patch things up. Where I don't agree is that 1) this is somehow irreversible 2) that it really affects American citizens on the personal level – from personal experience, as an American living in Europe for the last decade, I've had basically zero negative interactions with people or hostile accusations. Most people…

I agree with you too but

> from personal experience, as an American living in Europe for the last decade, I've had basically zero negative interactions with people or hostile accusations. Most people do understand that the American government is a bit out of control, and American culture is in a tumultuous period. If anything I'd say it tends more toward sympathy than anger

Imagining that America attacked Greenland Thus Denmark/EU and the fact that Denmark was genuinely preparing for this, Just imaginging America attack Greenland and I do feel like that the sentiments might change. (This is what had happened to Muslim people not even people of specific country but negative interactions against whole religions after 9/11)

I would agree with you if this was the last day of Trump administration, but far from it. We have to handle so much more of this current administration. It's literally only been a year to see so much shift. I hope you realize it that for the most part, America is busy with the Iran war but any assurances about the sovereignity of EU or any country in the world for that matter isn't made by America and everything is off the table and anything might happen. I am sure that both of us wasn't predicting an Iran war or a greenland invastion but here we are.

It just feels natural to me that if a single year can have this much impact and you have four years for something like this and the most important fact which I want to highlight again, people technically voted for this and can still technically vote for it again , there are no safeguards and the most important part was a belief that if shit hits the fan, then American Judiciary or checks and balances or congress would stop something like this from happening but we all saw how nothing really happened.

My point is, 3 more years, let that sink in, into this level of turbulent times when an war is currently active and gas prices are rising all across the world solely because America and Israel started the Iran war :/

I can only have so much patience but if gas prices are double the price because of America/this war, Sadly I might lose my patience.

I lost my patience somedays ago when I heard that the local fast food shop was talking about the gas price increases and how it hurted them. I had true resentment to this war and America/Israel for starting it and having this poor guy suffer so much from the gas prices. I know that America and American people are different but till how long/how much especially if some people are still supportive of such war. It sort of left me speechless when he was talking about how hard it is to stay in this business.

To think that the world will forgive America so easily might not be accurate, that's all I am saying.

My point is, Even if party changes next time from red to blue, It's just really really hard to undo all this harm that it has done to its soft power.

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The only way the US can fix our reputation will be to try and imprison our current leadership after they are eventually removed from power. And in particular, the Trump family needs to have all of its assets seized.

And change the constitution to fix the issue of an administration just ignoring the law.

Lol we cant even change the electoral college. No way we amend the constitution.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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If you want: motors, ESCs, flight controllers and radios those can be sourced from outside of China, and competitively priced too (if you're in Europe, outside you'd still have to add taxes).

The thread is about manufacturing in the US so tariffs do have to be factored in. On those specific parts: Motors: T-Motor F90 1300KV - $119.60(incl shipping) + Tariff ESC: Holybro Tekko32 F4 50A - $88.97(incl shipping) + Tariff FC: Matek H743-SLIM V4 - £88.12(incl shipping + VAT) + Tariff Radio: Radiomaster M2 $95.99(incl shipping + sales tax) The FC was from a UK store but it originated in China. I already had the…

https://motor-g.com/en

https://www.arctus.ai/products

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Imprison based on what and seize assets based on what exactly? You not liking the administration is not a valid reason for asset seizure

It's peculiar to me that after Nixon, Americans just don't hold their presidents accountable for their illegal actions anymore. It seems like they've just given up; they no longer behave as if the president was the head of the executive branch. They behave as if he was a king with absolute power. This is such a long-standing problem that people no longer even notice the crimes happening right in front of their eyes.…

Americans turned the presidency into a pop figure.

Our president should be boring and relatively quiet. Congress should be our focus, not the president.

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