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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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This is a weird pattern accross OpenAI/Anthropic to buy startups building better toolings. I don't really see the value for OAI/Anthropic, but it's nice to know that uv (+ ty and many others) and Bun will stay maintained!

> it's nice to know that uv (+ ty and many others) and Bun will stay maintained!

Depends if you think the bubble is going to pop, I suppose. In some sense, independence was insulation.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#12
This is a serious risk for the open source ecosystem and particularly the scientific ecosystem that over the last years has adopted many of these technologies. Having their future depend on a cap-ex heavy company that is currently (based on reporting) spending approx. 2.5 dollars to make a dollar of revenue and must have hypergrowth in the next years or perish is less than ideal. This should discourage anybody doing serious work to adopt more of the upcoming Astral technologies like ty and pyx. Hopefully, ruff and uv are large enough to be forked should (when) the time comes.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#13
post #3

This is a weird pattern accross OpenAI/Anthropic to buy startups building better toolings. I don't really see the value for OAI/Anthropic, but it's nice to know that uv (+ ty and many others) and Bun will stay maintained!

`uv agent` and `bun agent` in 3....2.....1....

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#14
Welp. Guess we just wait for the next package management tool to come around. Really thought uv was gonna be the one.

Good for Astral though I guess, they do great work. Just not optimistic this is gonna be good for python devs long term.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#16

I like uv, but not sure this is a good path forward for the python ecosystem.

why? lot's of good work came to Python by people who were sponsored by big tech companies. make Python better for them, and for a lot of other people too.

(sure, it's a bit different than contributing to CPython, but I'd argue not that different)

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#17
As a non python dev I really thought UV and TY are great tools and liked their approaches but I don't know how good it is that they are privately held... no a fan

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

#20
If you don't pay for your tools and support OSS financially, this is what happens.

Although Astral being VC funded was already headed this way anyway.

Deno, Pydantic (Both Sequoia) will go the same way as with many other VC backed "open source" dev tools.

It will go towards AI companies buying up the very same tools, putting it in their next model update and used against you.

Rented back to you for $20/mo.

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