How old is this? 1989 or something like that? Guido was probably quite young when he wrote it. Looks like LaTeX? Edit: Someone else wrote 1988 which I suppose makes sense, as the latest reference at the end is from 1988 too. So then Guido was 32 years old.
> quite young > 32 years old As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years?
Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
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Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> quite young > 32 years old As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years?
> As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years? You'll still feel young too! It's really weird when you get to your mid 30's and realise that all the 20-somethings view you as old
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> quite young > 32 years old As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years?
Consider that careers run from 20 to 70 or so.
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#24It's a neat project. Write cross platform desktop apps in C. Presumably it would not have been very usable in practice in the late 1980s, because of all the OTHER system interfaces that still weren't portable, even if the windowing system was available in a portable way. I can remember the subsequent period in which Java desktop apps were relatively common. They had cross platform UI by default. But the problem was:…
I saw a screenshot of GTK 1 and the first thing I thought is that I'd rather make something using GTK 1 than GTK 3. Unfortunately I asked an AI chatbot about it and they advised against it because of "security" :(
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#25How old is this? 1989 or something like that? Guido was probably quite young when he wrote it. Looks like LaTeX? Edit: Someone else wrote 1988 which I suppose makes sense, as the latest reference at the end is from 1988 too. So then Guido was 32 years old.
> quite young > 32 years old As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years?
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#26How old is this? 1989 or something like that? Guido was probably quite young when he wrote it. Looks like LaTeX? Edit: Someone else wrote 1988 which I suppose makes sense, as the latest reference at the end is from 1988 too. So then Guido was 32 years old.
> quite young > 32 years old As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years?
An anecdote for you...
In Summer 1997 i was 24 at a family reunion, listening to my grandmother and several other seniors talk about some recent interaction my grandmother had had with a delivery person. One of her friends asked her, "how old was he?"
i'll never forget either her response or my jaw-dropping which followed:
"Oh, he was a _young_ man. About 50, I guess."
(Yes, she actually stressed the word _young_.)
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#27How old is this? 1989 or something like that? Guido was probably quite young when he wrote it. Looks like LaTeX? Edit: Someone else wrote 1988 which I suppose makes sense, as the latest reference at the end is from 1988 too. So then Guido was 32 years old.
> quite young > 32 years old As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years?
One of these days, maybe as early as your mid-/late-40s, you will be consulting with your a medical doctor and realize that you are the oldest person in the room.
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#28It's a neat project. Write cross platform desktop apps in C. Presumably it would not have been very usable in practice in the late 1980s, because of all the OTHER system interfaces that still weren't portable, even if the windowing system was available in a portable way. I can remember the subsequent period in which Java desktop apps were relatively common. They had cross platform UI by default. But the problem was:…
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other popular option for cross-platform UI apps was Tcl/Tk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tk_(software) ...which even leaked into other language ecosystems like Python: https://docs.python.org/3/library/tkinter.html
Which had the ugliness problem then, although it is a lot better now.