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Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by vrganj »

easytiger wrote: post #185
vrganj wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

France has a nuclear deterrent it has stated has "a European dimension". Don't go around poking hornets nests if you don't want to get stung.

You think there's a game theory scenario in the book where France launches a nuclear weapon at mainland USA over a land dispute between them and Denmark?

France has the only first strike nuclear doctrine in the world, with the specific policy of shooting nukes to "protect it's vital interests", a term Macron has recently clarified "has a European dimension".

Make of that what you will, but if I were you I wouldn't go around poking the hornets nest that has an explicit sign "these hornets will sting" attached to it.

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Post by Jensson »

lm28469 wrote: post #139
KaiMagnus wrote: post #97

And this is, in my opinion, why support at Hormuz shouldn’t even be on the table. How can you possibly hold joint patrols when you were just months ago planning full scale war between each other?

> And this is, in my opinion, why support at Hormuz shouldn’t even be on the table Shouldn't? it's not on the table at all lol

It is on the table, why are you spouting bullshit? People are discussing this right now. Or do you mean Denmark wont help at Hormuz, but I doubt Denmark would help there anyway, but other countries are discussing that.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-military-i...

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Post by terminalshort »

_bohm wrote: post #55
nxm wrote: post #31

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Imprison based on what and seize assets based on what exactly? You not liking the administration is not a valid reason for asset seizure

Starting illegal wars and engaging in extreme corruption, for starters.

The war isn't illegal. The president has that power. I don't like it either, but since the Korean War this is simply a statement of fact.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by the_af »

I have no doubts they took US threats seriously; anyone who doesn't these days is a fool (of course, this doesn't mean Trump will do anything he claims, but he's dangerous enough you can never tell for sure).

What I find harder to believe is that they were preparing for "full-scale war". That makes no sense. Using F-35, American made and very likely with kill switches or otherwise susceptible to American interference? And where would they get their American made parts and supplies? And Denmark stands no chance at all against US military might, with or without assistance from France.

I'm sure they were prepared to engage in token resistance, and also more serious diplomatic and economic struggles, but "full-scale war" is hyperbole.

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Post by llm_nerd »

AlexandrB wrote: post #174
llm_nerd wrote: post #89

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Militarily, absolutely. Absolutely no one misunderstands this. It would destroy the US on the worldwide stage, and even internally. Not to mention it absolutely annihilates the American delusion that you're the "good guys". Right now the US is a staggering idiocracy, and is absolutely the most dangerous rogue nation on the planet. And how utterly pathetic. When the "join us, please, we're so great" fell absolutely fl…

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I'm not "the left". I'm some guy whose politics lean centrist to even conservative at times (particularly on crime and immigration). If you need to pop off and justify being trash by pointing to one comment and vilifying an entire political lean, well that's just intellectual garbage. You realize it convinces no one, right?

Further, what irony. The MAGA movement, empowered by angry, uneducated rural America, only has hate as their concern. They are willing to tear everything down if it serves the goal of getting even at those uppity libs. Absolutely nothing Trump and his crew of plastic-faced, incompetent criminal clowns does anything to improve the lives for shithole states like Oklahoma (50th out of 50 on education, but their head of education spent his time attacking NY and California and buying Trump bibles...good god, what a pathetic idiocracy), but he causes pain for "the cities" so that's good enough for them.

When a country has that sort of voting, it's time to move on. The US should have fractured years ago -- Texas has openly talked secession repeatedly, but the moment a "blue state" does the whole indivisible thing becomes paramount.

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Post by outside1234 »

philipallstar wrote: post #5
jacquesm wrote: post #3

Of course they were. The United States has never before damaged its own reputation in Europe as much as they did in the last 12 months. And the same goes for Canada, possibly worse. You don't go around threatening your allies unless you really have plans and that's why you don't elect senile old guys to positions of power.

> that's why you don't elect senile old guys to positions of power. Anyone of principle would have been saying this before 2025, and far louder.

C'mon, everyone was saying this in 2024. It is just that people hate women and people of color more.

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Post by JeremyNT »

srean wrote: post #117
jjtwixman wrote: post #34

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Yeah the US we knew is gone. I think about this sometimes when I am listening to American music from the 20th century, how much soft power they had, how great they made America sound either directly or indirectly. That America that we all looked up to and admired is gone. Pity.

Did that US really exist without a self imposed convenience of blindness ? The brutality of the School of Americas might indicate otherwise. Now rebranded as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_f...

The US was historically self-interested in empire building, with an excellent PR campaign in front of it, but... it also did useful and good stuff, both for its allies and for unrelated parties. USAID was a testament to this.

PR spin aside, it was largely a force for global stability (a few notable and disastrous military quagmires aside). "Free trade" isn't much of a philosophy to hang your hat on but it is an ideal of sorts, and it allowed a more connected world.

Now? Brazen corruption, kleptocracy, hostility towards allies...

It's certainly fair to say the US never lived up to the ideals it espoused, but now it's not even espousing those ideals and seems to actively be working against them.

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Post by jacquesm »

bregma wrote: post #207
dspillett wrote: post #146

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Aye. Though those making a big noise about “Sleepy Joe” didn't seem to have a problem electing Drooling Dementia Drone Don.

There is no evidence that dozy Donny the paedo president has dementia. It's just that one of his personality traits is "Arbitrary". I can just imagine him saying, as he walks into the TV room in the Whitehouse, "I went to Glitterhoof's chamber and gave him a good tumble! It is good to be the king!"

You can bet that it is exactly what his defense will be if he's ever in court for all of his crimes. I can dream, no?

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Post by lynndotpy »

jacquesm wrote: post #3

Of course they were. The United States has never before damaged its own reputation in Europe as much as they did in the last 12 months. And the same goes for Canada, possibly worse. You don't go around threatening your allies unless you really have plans and that's why you don't elect senile old guys to positions of power.

I'm really happy these topics are being discussed here on HN, when they weren't ~1 year ago. When considering a post-USA world, we also get to consider a post-Microsoft, post-Meta, post-Google, post-CloudFlare, post-Amazon, etc world.

I can't say I know much about how the EU operates or how quickly their Open Digital Ecosystems initiative could take shape, but this is a really opportune time to build a better tech industry.

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