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Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by nxm »

empath75 wrote: post #12
jacquesm wrote: post #3

Of course they were. The United States has never before damaged its own reputation in Europe as much as they did in the last 12 months. And the same goes for Canada, possibly worse. You don't go around threatening your allies unless you really have plans and that's why you don't elect senile old guys to positions of power.

The only way the US can fix our reputation will be to try and imprison our current leadership after they are eventually removed from power. And in particular, the Trump family needs to have all of its assets seized.

Imprison based on what and seize assets based on what exactly? You not liking the administration is not a valid reason for asset seizure

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jazz9k »

empath75 wrote: post #12
jacquesm wrote: post #3

Of course they were. The United States has never before damaged its own reputation in Europe as much as they did in the last 12 months. And the same goes for Canada, possibly worse. You don't go around threatening your allies unless you really have plans and that's why you don't elect senile old guys to positions of power.

The only way the US can fix our reputation will be to try and imprison our current leadership after they are eventually removed from power. And in particular, the Trump family needs to have all of its assets seized.

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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by ta20240528 »

ericmay wrote: post #18
jacquesm wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't matter. It is not so much about whether the USA could do this and expect to win, of course they can. Nobody has any doubt about that. It is about gross miscalculation of consequences. Attack Greenland ->attack Denmark, attack Denmark -> Attack the EU. So you don't attack Greenland. Because that would be wrong. Unless all that stuff about shining cities on hills was nonsense. Instead of making America gre…

The US wouldn’t even need to “attack” Greenland. What is there to even attack? 50 Danish soldiers? They could just say “that’s ours”, ignore whatever Europe says, and start doing whatever they wanted to do and instead force the EU to attack American forces or civilian business interests. I’m not suggesting this is a good idea or anything but there’s a ton of other ways that something like this could play out which in…

The UK only had to send a single officer to Greenland to stop Trump's previous attempt to annex Greenland.

That was a signal, thankfully there are still adults in the USA who recognised it.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jjtwixman »

jacquesm wrote: post #9
philipallstar wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that's why you don't elect senile old guys to positions of power. Anyone of principle would have been saying this before 2025, and far louder.

Note that this is from a country that wouldn't exist if not for the allied countries and that the US has somehow managed to all but erase that reputation. We recognize our debt, we also recognize that this is to a country that no longer exists in a meaningful way. All we have now is multiple variations of the mob.

Yeah the US we knew is gone. I think about this sometimes when I am listening to American music from the 20th century, how much soft power they had, how great they made America sound either directly or indirectly. That America that we all looked up to and admired is gone. Pity.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by zabzonk »

jacquesm wrote: post #9
philipallstar wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that's why you don't elect senile old guys to positions of power. Anyone of principle would have been saying this before 2025, and far louder.

Note that this is from a country that wouldn't exist if not for the allied countries and that the US has somehow managed to all but erase that reputation. We recognize our debt, we also recognize that this is to a country that no longer exists in a meaningful way. All we have now is multiple variations of the mob.

> Note that this is from a country that wouldn't exist if not for the allied countries

Which allied countries? And (I assume we are talking about the USA) why would it not exist?

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by ericmay »

ta20240528 wrote: post #33
ericmay wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US wouldn’t even need to “attack” Greenland. What is there to even attack? 50 Danish soldiers? They could just say “that’s ours”, ignore whatever Europe says, and start doing whatever they wanted to do and instead force the EU to attack American forces or civilian business interests. I’m not suggesting this is a good idea or anything but there’s a ton of other ways that something like this could play out which in…

The UK only had to send a single officer to Greenland to stop Trump's previous attempt to annex Greenland. That was a signal, thankfully there are still adults in the USA who recognised it.

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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jjtwixman »

jazz9k wrote: post #32
empath75 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only way the US can fix our reputation will be to try and imprison our current leadership after they are eventually removed from power. And in particular, the Trump family needs to have all of its assets seized.

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Lol they are definitely all criminals. There's no way they aren't. For starters it's common knowledge that Trump is a paedophile and a rapist.

> Obama bombed kids in the Middle East

You are aware that Trump is bombing Iran right now, and bombed a girl's school in particular?

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by Insanity »

jacquesm wrote: post #20
crispyambulance wrote: post #13

There's a difference between "posturing" for show and actually "preparing for war". They're wise to the fact that "the Stable Genius" isn't going to try anything violent with Denmark/Greenland, but they still want to prevent him thinking about just stealing territory "peacefully."

Trust me, Denmark wasn't posturing. The assumption was - and still is - that the USA wasn't posturing either. We (and I realize I obviously don't speak for all of Europe but I have my finger on the pulse in many places here) are also not assuming that when Trump is gone the USA will go back to normal.

And even if they did go back to normal for the next presidency - why trust it? Their entire political system is set up so that the winds can change entirely every 4 years.

If the people voted Trump in to office twice, it’ll happen again. It’s a divided country where propaganda has a strong hold.

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