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Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by defrost »

poisonarena wrote: post #189
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like you're missing the point, and the answer to your question: > isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later, after he became a billionaire? No. Multiple people are now informing you that this is not weird. I'm assuming good faith that this was a genuine question, and you now have your answer to it: "No."

on the contrary, both of you missed my original point, which is that i doubt it happened the way they say it did, because I think they want a taste of the hundreds of millions of dollars he has.

> both of you missed my original point,

Nope.

No one missed you implying it was solely about the money.

Again, a vast number of sexual assaults are either never reported or not reported for many many years.

Regardless of the money.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

poisonarena wrote: post #189
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like you're missing the point, and the answer to your question: > isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later, after he became a billionaire? No. Multiple people are now informing you that this is not weird. I'm assuming good faith that this was a genuine question, and you now have your answer to it: "No."

on the contrary, both of you missed my original point, which is that i doubt it happened the way they say it did, because I think they want a taste of the hundreds of millions of dollars he has.

> i doubt it happened the way they say it did

You are free to doubt whatever you want regarding the rich convicted criminal and liar we're discussing, just like any of the other 8 billion random individuals on the planet can doubt whatever, but the point you missed is that the answer to your question and original point:

> isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later, after he became a billionaire?

Is "No." Thank you for asking your good-faith question, you now have heard the correct answer from multiple people and are more educated on the serious matter of sexual assault. Hopefully your previous incorrect assumption of "Yes" did not cloud your judgement on the matter.

P.S.: if you ever find yourself saying something along the lines of "both of you missed my original point", chances are the communication problem (and the point-missing) lies with you, rather than everyone else participating in the thread.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by crote »

nradov wrote: post #77
crote wrote: post #20

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What is it even supposed to mean ? Airplanes have had autopilot (the genuine kind, not Musk's snake oil) for ages now. Commercial airlines have been using autoland on well-equipped airports for decades. Garmin's fully autonomous emergency autoland has already saved a few Cessna owners' lives. With the ongoing adoption of CPDLC the ATC-to-pilot link is also actively being automated and standardized. There are no big t…

You seem to be confused about the reasons. Fully automated flight is technically feasible (with the right equipment) under normal conditions. However, it will never be a replacement for a pair of human pilots for Part 121 commercial passenger flights — at least not without some fundamental advancement in AGI. The problem is not with routine flight operations but with emergency procedures. By their very nature, emerge…

I already covered that part.

Pilots are supposed to rigidly follow their checklists - to the point of having to execute some of them from memory. A computer could easily do the same for the vast majority of emergencies.

The "Miracle on the Hudson" is called a miracle for a reason: the expected outcome is for everyone to die. Same with UA232. Nobody would've blamed the pilots if there had been zero survivors! Even with human pilots it is the exception, not the rule.

The fact that you are willing to blame an autopilot for not improvising a 1-in-1000 Hail Mary attempt is exactly the conservatism I mentioned: we prefer routine human failure and the occasional miracle over predictable automated performance.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by crote »

kotaKat wrote: post #31
crote wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it even supposed to mean ? Airplanes have had autopilot (the genuine kind, not Musk's snake oil) for ages now. Commercial airlines have been using autoland on well-equipped airports for decades. Garmin's fully autonomous emergency autoland has already saved a few Cessna owners' lives. With the ongoing adoption of CPDLC the ATC-to-pilot link is also actively being automated and standardized. There are no big t…

The technical hurdle to solve they feel is getting the barrier to 'flying' dumbed down even more. They want this to be something that Joe off the street can get in with minimal flight training and go zip around in a high performance jet once their vesting clears and they can cash out a few mill. So... basically, an even more digital cockpit with more touchscreens and less verbatim information presentation on the scre…

How's that going to solve the FAA-mandated training requirements?

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by taneq »

cjbgkagh wrote: post #162
lo_zamoyski wrote: post #156

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"I respect the machismo." I believe the word he was looking for is "chutzpah", and no, it isn't a virtue, and no, it cannot be respected. Trash.

“gall” has the more negative connotations.

Unmitigated gall, even.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by hacker161 »

dyauspitr wrote: post #121
mh2266 wrote: post #113

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is the intended point here that it is okay to sexually abuse 16 year olds, so everything is fine—but 15 year olds are right out? or... what?

If it’s consensual obviously a 16 year old is fine. It’s the law.

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Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by hacker161 »

poisonarena wrote: post #190
defrost wrote: post #184

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Again, it is commonplace for both men and women to not publicly report sexual assault in their teen and preteen years for decades. Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s).

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Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by AngryData »

game_the0ry wrote: post #148
anonymous_user9 wrote: post #125

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IMO you're being unfair; he talked his way into getting paid half a billion dollars for wework, and he's now a billionaire. That's a massive success at capital extraction.

This is too cynical for even a turbo cynic like me. Basically, you’re saying he mislead investors and got a bunch of money, so those investors see themselves being ripped off as a valuable skill, so they invest in him again. Wut? I say again — why would investors trust him if his only track record is losing investor money?

If you know he is good at duping investors then you know he is good at gaining investors, and if you think you will be able to well time your exit you will make a shit ton of money off the other investor's investment. Many investors are just straight up gamblers and risk is just part of the game.

Its like people who invest into a ponzi scheme knowing full well it is a ponzi scheme, just thinking they are smart enough to leave before it all comes crashing down. And once you get enough critical mass, other people will invest based entirely on the fact that there is a lot of other investors and a rising price.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by panick21_ »

Fucking scamer piece of shit. I watched the whole saga and to anybody with a brain it was clear he was a scammer. Anybody that even did minimal research into the industry it was clear what he was doing. He spent most of the money on adds for his stock.

To make him sound credibly he agree to really shitty deals (for him) with credible companies. So he could say 'we are in business with X'. Of course GM was the biggest fish they got in that regard, of course the GM CEO at the time was on crusade to claim they were doing 'EV' so I think even they knew it was mostly scam, but it got them into the media.

He should be in prison.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

cheema33 wrote: post #99
ryandrake wrote: post #57

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> It was wiped away with a phone call. In March 2025, Trump called Milton to tell him he had signed an unconditional pardon. Milton had styled himself as a political victim of the Biden administration, and Trump agreed. Birds of a feather flock together.

> Milton had styled himself as a political victim of the Biden administration, and Trump agreed. That and a $1 million donation. He bought his pardon fair and square.

Cheap at the price!
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