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> isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later No. Not in the slightest. From work I once did, essentially IT support for a Royal Commission inquiry into sexual abuse and assault, it's extremely common for all manner of sexual assault victims to remain silent for many years. Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s). Eg: ~ 50 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Cable#Sexu…

Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying, and answering a question I didn't ask ! edit: comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach

> Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying

Read more carefully, note well: " Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s)."

> comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach

No, they had a reach around.

Moreover, I didn't compare them, I merely noted that large time gaps are common place. Again, please read carefully.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

#182

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Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying, and answering a question I didn't ask ! edit: comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach

> Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying Read more carefully, note well: " Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s)." > comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach No, they had a reach around. Moreover, I didn't compare them, I merely n…

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Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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I struggle to understand the psychology of how founders who are clearly incompetent charlatans get second+ chances -- they couldn't do fraud successfully but investors have a faith they could do business successfully. But they still get funding (like adam neumann of wework fame) and full on "narrative tongue baths" by the business media community (like this wsj article on trevor milton). Why? I struggle to understand…

The past failure is in the abstract, and in the past. And anyway, they were unfairly maligned. There is an inside version of the story that they will be happy to tell you, which was clearly not their fault. But that is neither here nor there. What is important is the now, and in the now you are in the presence of someone who is Good At Making Money. And you too, by joining forces, will be Making Lots Of Money with th…

Airplane shaped blimp, here we go! =)

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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> Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying Read more carefully, note well: " Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s)." > comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach No, they had a reach around. Moreover, I didn't compare them, I merely n…

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Again, it is commonplace for both men and women to not publicly report sexual assault in their teen and preteen years for decades.

Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s).

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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I struggle to understand the psychology of how founders who are clearly incompetent charlatans get second+ chances -- they couldn't do fraud successfully but investors have a faith they could do business successfully. But they still get funding (like adam neumann of wework fame) and full on "narrative tongue baths" by the business media community (like this wsj article on trevor milton). Why? I struggle to understand…

I can guarantee you that Elizabeth Holmes will get a big bunch of funding for a new startup as soon as she's out of jail. Even with SBF I'm 50/50 on that.

A lot of companies are currently doing what (if you squint) Holmes was claiming Theranos would be able to do a decade ago. I agree with you that this is enough for her to claim, plausibly to some, that she was basically on the right track.

SBF, similarly, happened to have FTX invest in Anthropic early, and while we don't know how that's gonna play out now that they're at odds with the DoW, the value of Anthropic has already increased enough that it would have made whole all the money he was wasting/embezzling, so there's going to be a path for people to claim that he's directionally worth investing more money in, if he's out anytime soon.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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I struggle to understand the psychology of how founders who are clearly incompetent charlatans get second+ chances -- they couldn't do fraud successfully but investors have a faith they could do business successfully. But they still get funding (like adam neumann of wework fame) and full on "narrative tongue baths" by the business media community (like this wsj article on trevor milton). Why? I struggle to understand…

My assumption is that the people he's working with today also would like to do some fraud, and are hoping he'll be better at it this time.

And/or they're part of the Trump rich people's club. They all tend to stick together and help each other.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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There are those who would argue doing anything is better than doing nothing while you try to figure out what to do. I'm in a position where I know what my passions are and am sufficiently constrained by resources that I can't afford major mistakes; but if I were sufficiently wealthy and indifferent, throwing darts at a board with a couple of ideas on it and just doing whatever has a certain romance to it.

Don't do nothing while figuring out what to do. But you should still spend time thinking about what to do. If you're wealthy time and personal energy are the most valuable, irreplaceable resources you now possess. Why squander them on fruitless, random pursuits if you could think strategically and do something that really matters?

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Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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> Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying Read more carefully, note well: " Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s)." > comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach No, they had a reach around. Moreover, I didn't compare them, I merely n…

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I feel like you're missing the point, and the answer to your question:

> isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later, after he became a billionaire?

No. Multiple people are now informing you that this is not weird. I'm assuming good faith that this was a genuine question, and you now have your answer to it: "No."

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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I feel like you're missing the point, and the answer to your question: > isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later, after he became a billionaire? No. Multiple people are now informing you that this is not weird. I'm assuming good faith that this was a genuine question, and you now have your answer to it: "No."

on the contrary, both of you missed my original point, which is that i doubt it happened the way they say it did, because I think they want a taste of the hundreds of millions of dollars he has.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Again, it is commonplace for both men and women to not publicly report sexual assault in their teen and preteen years for decades. Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s).

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