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Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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is the intended point here that it is okay to sexually abuse 16 year olds, so everything is fine—but 15 year olds are right out? or... what?

If it’s consensual obviously a 16 year old is fine. It’s the law.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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post #113

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is the intended point here that it is okay to sexually abuse 16 year olds, so everything is fine—but 15 year olds are right out? or... what?

If it’s consensual obviously a 16 year old is fine. It’s the law.

ok, but it wasn't consensual?

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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I suspect the person you replied to was being subtly sarcastic. edit: but honestly, I'm not sure.

I thought I was laying on the sarcasm pretty thick. But I guess it’s harder and harder to tell these days!

I took as beyond sarcasm, just a simple explanation of how they manage to keep going written in the first person. From my perspective it is incredible anybody could misunderstand.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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There was a great Money Stuff blurb about that w/r/t Adam Neumann. I can't find it to quote it directly, but the gist was that if you disabuse yourself of the notion that Neumann was playing a game of entrepreneurship and good-faith empire building, and instead conclude that the game he was playing was shameless capital extraction, every step and action he took suddenly makes sense. The truly amazing thing, especiall…

> ...if you disabuse yourself of the notion that Neumann was playing a game of entrepreneurship and good-faith empire building, and instead conclude that the game he was playing was shameless capital extraction, every step and action he took suddenly makes sense. Sort of. I get the capital extraction part, but you also need to be a good steward of capital and make a profitable business out of it. He failed badly at t…

IMO you're being unfair; he talked his way into getting paid half a billion dollars for wework, and he's now a billionaire. That's a massive success at capital extraction.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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You seem to be making an assumption on what comment the OP is referring to. Could you provide us the quote you think has "gone through many rounds of telephone"?

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Shame on you

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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I struggle to understand the psychology of how founders who are clearly incompetent charlatans get second+ chances -- they couldn't do fraud successfully but investors have a faith they could do business successfully. But they still get funding (like adam neumann of wework fame) and full on "narrative tongue baths" by the business media community (like this wsj article on trevor milton). Why? I struggle to understand…

> SyberJet’s own history shows the challenges. Over the past 40 years, an eclectic mix of financiers from Dubai to Taiwan invested hundreds of millions of dollars in developing the plane maker’s lightweight business jets. But in all that time just four planes made it into the hands of customers.

Putting two and two together it seems to me that this business is a front for money laundering or something.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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post #113

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is the intended point here that it is okay to sexually abuse 16 year olds, so everything is fine—but 15 year olds are right out? or... what?

If it’s consensual obviously a 16 year old is fine. It’s the law.

> If it’s consensual obviously a 16 year old is fine.

That's not obvious to me. For example, would it be fine for a rich, powerful 40 year old to sleep with a 16 year old? Given the power inbalance, is consent really possible?

> It’s the law.

Lots of very not 'fine' things are legal.

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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I struggle to understand the psychology of how founders who are clearly incompetent charlatans get second+ chances -- they couldn't do fraud successfully but investors have a faith they could do business successfully. But they still get funding (like adam neumann of wework fame) and full on "narrative tongue baths" by the business media community (like this wsj article on trevor milton). Why? I struggle to understand…

Does anybody know his investors? I'd like an intro:)

Re: Trevor Milton is raising funds for a new jet he claims will transform flying

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> It was wiped away with a phone call. In March 2025, Trump called Milton to tell him he had signed an unconditional pardon. Milton had styled himself as a political victim of the Biden administration, and Trump agreed. Birds of a feather flock together.

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The average dog has slightly less than 4 legs; the modal dog has 4 legs. If you call a tail a leg, it's still not a leg, so no dogs have 5 legs.

What the President believes is not, has not been, and cannot be the basis of law. If it were, the President would be a king.

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