I'm still extremely skeptical on Claws as a genre, and especially more skeptical of a claw that's always reporting home. What's the use case for a closed claw?
That's like asking what the use case is for closed-source software.
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Nvidia NemoClaw
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Re: Nvidia NemoClaw
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What makes it even better is that these dogs are like Malinois. If they want to get into something, they will; people have had their entire network compromised by bots they left running overnight, and any important information like account logins and so on runs the risk of being misused. It's one thing to sandbox, maybe give the bot a temporary, limited $100 card or account to go perform a specific task, but there's…
Shrimp charities is a genius angle.
Bubba Gump Shrimp Company?
Re: Nvidia NemoClaw
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Sorry to be the one to inform you that we edit history in git. There has been reporting on nemoclaw for the last couple weeks. Are you supposing that journalists were writing about software that hadn't even been designed?
> Sorry to be the one to inform you that we edit history in git. Who is "we"? Do you work for NVidia? > There has been reporting on nemoclaw for the last couple weeks. The earliest reporting I've seen was yesterday. Can you link something from prior to March 14? edit: I did find some articles from before March 14[0] which says NVidia was "prepping" this. Which is extremely funny, because it means they were hyping up…
alright so the git history goes back 4 days.
I learned about nemoclaw 5 days ago here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL2lMpLjxWA
but it was reported 8 days ago here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=345GsxnrHHg
I am not anyone special. I don't know anything about nvidia. I just know that the "4 day history" you think matters, is not a reasonable belief given that random youtubers have been reporting on it.
and by "we" i mean git users. people who used git for its usefulness before github existed, and understand the value of a clean history over an accurate history.
Re: Nvidia NemoClaw
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> Am I missing something? You are indeed missing a TON. A lot of Open Claw users don't give it everything. We give it specific access to a group of things it needs to do the things we want. If I want an agent to sit there 24/7 maximizing uptime of my service, I give it access to certain data, the GitHub repo with PR privileges, and maybe even permissions to restart the service. All of this has to be very thoughtful a…
You could do that with say Claude Code too with rather much simpler set up. OPs question was more around sandboxes though. To which, I would say that it's to limit unintended actions on host machine.
I want to be proven wrong, but every use case someone presents for OpenClaw is just a worse version of Claude Code, at least, so far.
Re: Nvidia NemoClaw
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If you started your career more than ~2-3 years ago, you were trained on a completely different game. Clear abstractions, ownership, careful iteration, all that. That muscle memory is actively hindering you; preventing you from succeeding. The people coming up now don't have that baggage. They never internalized "write the code yourself" as the default. They think in terms of spawning systems, letting things run, che…
This is the most delusional comment i think i have ever read on this site. It didn't make sense until i read the part about "Founders and CEOs" and realized it was not a post about any serious software enterprise.
Yeah, it's satire. But the number of upvotes I'm getting on it is a bit concerning.
Re: Nvidia NemoClaw
#166Am I missing something? Why is everyone talking about sandboxes when it comes to OpenClaw? To me it's like giving your dog a stack of important documents, then being worried he might eat them, so you put the dog in a crate, together with the documents. I thought the whole problem with that idea was that in order for the agent to be useful, you have to connect it to your calendar, your e-mail provider and other servic…
What makes it even better is that these dogs are like Malinois. If they want to get into something, they will; people have had their entire network compromised by bots they left running overnight, and any important information like account logins and so on runs the risk of being misused. It's one thing to sandbox, maybe give the bot a temporary, limited $100 card or account to go perform a specific task, but there's…
The first well known example of long running agents taking to each other was shilling a goatse based crytpo:
> Truth Terminal had become obsessed with the Goatse meme after being put inside the Claude Backrooms server with two Claude 3 chatbots that imagined a Goatse religion, inspiring Truth Terminal to spread Goatse memes. After an X user shared their newly created GOAT coin, Truth Terminal promoted it and pumped the coin going into 2024.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/truth-terminal
You should expect similar results.
Re: Nvidia NemoClaw
#167Am I missing something? Why is everyone talking about sandboxes when it comes to OpenClaw? To me it's like giving your dog a stack of important documents, then being worried he might eat them, so you put the dog in a crate, together with the documents. I thought the whole problem with that idea was that in order for the agent to be useful, you have to connect it to your calendar, your e-mail provider and other servic…
What makes it even better is that these dogs are like Malinois. If they want to get into something, they will; people have had their entire network compromised by bots they left running overnight, and any important information like account logins and so on runs the risk of being misused. It's one thing to sandbox, maybe give the bot a temporary, limited $100 card or account to go perform a specific task, but there's…
Mega Man Battle Network, but make it creepypasta, but make it real.
Re: Nvidia NemoClaw
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm putting my dog in his crate with all my important documents, but leaving my fine china tableware in the cupboard away from the dog.
You start with one teacup in the crate and before you know it you're merging handle redesigns back to the entire fine china cupboard.
He's never broken a teacup in the past!
Re: Nvidia NemoClaw
#169Am I missing something? Why is everyone talking about sandboxes when it comes to OpenClaw? To me it's like giving your dog a stack of important documents, then being worried he might eat them, so you put the dog in a crate, together with the documents. I thought the whole problem with that idea was that in order for the agent to be useful, you have to connect it to your calendar, your e-mail provider and other servic…
> Am I missing something? You are indeed missing a TON. A lot of Open Claw users don't give it everything. We give it specific access to a group of things it needs to do the things we want. If I want an agent to sit there 24/7 maximizing uptime of my service, I give it access to certain data, the GitHub repo with PR privileges, and maybe even permissions to restart the service. All of this has to be very thoughtful a…
So, what does having inference done by NVIDIA directly add?
Re: Nvidia NemoClaw
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