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Re: Have a fucking website

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We usually order by phone, then drive by and pick up the food. Can't do that w/o a menu. The solution is usually to take a printed menu with you when you're there. But that's a chicken-and-egg problem!

Is that a "restaurant" then? Your use case means a kitchen which indeed needs a menu. But dining is something else, so we cannot compare.

Many of them offer that option, so there is a grey zone. But you're right - should have been more clear about that.

Re: Have a fucking website

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I definitely view it as a red flag if a business doesn't have a website in 2026. It doesn't need to be a fancy website, but does at least need a list of products, business hours, work samples, and contact info. If they don't have that, then I view it as an indication that other aspects of their business might also be lacking in professionality or high friction. That being said, if they have a strong presence on Googl…

I'm curious what you're looking for on a website that you can't otherwise find on a well organized Google Map page or Instagram profile.

For a restaurant, as long as I can see a menu, I'm satisfied. Even if it's a menu on DoorDash or whatever other menu apps there are. Also I look for reviews on both Google and yelp. I know they can be gamed but I look for low reviews as well. Zero low reviews is a red flag imo.

For a professional business (dentist, lawyer, etc), I look for reviews and services provided. Sometimes this does necessitate a website, like I don't expect a Google map entry to delineate all services a lawyer provides. But if I'm just looking for a filling or a crown, then I can be fairly confident that every dentist provides that service.

If I'm looking for an auto mechanic, I just need to know that they service my car. I don't know much about cars but some places advertise that they work on Japanese cars and some that they work on European. I imagine most of them can work on everything though. I can usually glean this from their Yelp page.

I suppose my point is that not every business necessarily needs a website. Some could certainly benefit from one, but not every one.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Every day on instagram I see people post pictures of text w/ words that are partially or fully obscured from view; presumably censoring themselves or others for the sake of the algorithm. Make a website, post what you like, be free.

Re: Have a fucking website

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I accept that as a software developer, I have a myopic view on it, but it doesn't have to be hard. - Get a domain name - Get a VPS with an nginx image pre-installed - Write a plain text file with the info you want shown (hours, contact info, etc...) Yeah it's not sexy, but it's a start and it can be changed when time and interest allows.

How do I get a domain name? What is a VPS? What the hell is nginx? How do I write a plain text file in Word? I don't have time for this ...

That's why Squarespace and Wix exist. You have 30 minutes.

Re: Have a fucking website

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> If you don't want to do business with them just because you shun platforms I don't do business with them because I can't access their hours, menu, services, etc... I've had this happen a few times. I'm not avoiding these businesses because I'm a snob. It's because I literally can't access the information. So, I go back to google and find a business that provides the information I need to decide if the business meet…

You can't even find a phone #? How about calling and asking? How do you know this place even exists without any information? This is the opposite of old man yelling at clouds, it's young people complaining about the dumbest shit. If the article writer is reading this, I feel the opposite. No, I don't want 1000 different websites. I like to use consolidated feeds. No More Websites!

> You can't even find a phone #? How about calling and asking?

Wait what? How does he contact the website if he can't find contact info?

I don't disagree with your point BTW — not everyone needs a website. But at the same time, a business often needs to meet customers where they are. If they're OK with losing a small subset of customers because their business info is only on and some people don't use said platform, then I don't see what's wrong with that. But if they're not OK with that, then they'll have a presence on more platforms which could include their own websites.

At the end of the day I don't really understand why anyone's arguing about any of this. If a business finds value in a website and it serves their business interests, they'll probably have one. If not, then they won't have one. No amount of philosophizing over democratizing the web will make my local café make a website.

Re: Have a fucking website

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People just don’t get it.

The old internet isn’t coming back. Yea you could setup a little old school page but you won’t have visitors. So what’s the point? Better to post a blog post on instagram as pictures where you get more reach, instead of a website where no one really cares.

If running a little website meant you’d actually get an audience, people would do it. But it doesn’t happen, we can see the traffic stats. And so, there’s just better things to do with your time and life than maintain a website no one goes to. That’s just the reality. I’d argue your better off handwriting a little journal, at least then you get the pleasure of holding a physical object you filled with thoughts.

Re: Have a fucking website

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I miss Geocities so much. It was so simple, open an account, drag some files and done you have a website. What happened? Why is it so hard to have a static website now?

Neocities is picking up the slack: https://neocities.org/

God damn those featured pages load so fast.

Re: Have a fucking website

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You can't even find a phone #? How about calling and asking? How do you know this place even exists without any information? This is the opposite of old man yelling at clouds, it's young people complaining about the dumbest shit. If the article writer is reading this, I feel the opposite. No, I don't want 1000 different websites. I like to use consolidated feeds. No More Websites!

> How do you know this place even exists without any information? You want to find an antique book store in another state. How do you find it? You search the web. And what information bubbles to the top of the search results? Answer: businesses with websites. If you are a business owner, you will lose customers without a website, because that is how most people will find you. You might not like it... but that is the…

If I'm looking for a physical place I usually just look at Google maps. "Minneapolis antique bookstores." I'll look at pics, see if the vibe is cool, etc. Relying on Google SEO is a recipe for disaster in my experience because there's no guarantee that the bookstore is even in or near Minneapolis. Other people probably browse the web differently though.

I honestly would not expect an antique bookstore to have a website, unless they let you buy their books online.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Someone wrote and deleted a comment saying > I don't get it. LLMs are supposed to have 100% bridged this gap from "normie" to "DIY website." What's missing? This is an all too common thought process among technologists, so: Where to even start? Well, let's start that every single "AI" company is massively overhyping everything to try to avoid any unfortunate realizations about the emperor's clothes regarding their Ca…

Yeah, setting up a website is a pain. But in reality there’s only a handful of things people care about for your restaurant: what, when, and where. Put up your menu, put up your hours, and put up your location. And a phone number.

I specifically tracked this problem and built https://lleu.site to try and get businesses in my city off of social media.

Built a menu editor. Has a built in blog and image galleries. Events calendar and event posts. Has a single page simple mode and multi page editor. Contact form with message intake and forwarding. Easy UI that I don’t change underfoot every quarter so its consistent. Works on mobile and low powered devices as well.

Kept the monthly price low and I’ve done cold emails, mailers, newspaper ads, online ads.

Still barely any takers. Probably a bit of a branding thing. Maybe its something else.

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