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Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by mlrtime »

zjp wrote: post #71
jrflowers wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do not want to order the sloppy toppy burger at BURGERSLUT. Just give me a cheeseburger. Seems odd to complain about the kitschy menu item names after walking into BURGERSLUT intent on ordering

You don’t always get to choose the restaurant. Sometimes your friends drag you places. Sometimes your sister in law wants to go take a photo of the Castro Theater and then get a cookie, and you find yourself in Hot Cookie calling a chocolate chip a Basic Bitch. I just think that these kinds of "perfect agency" gotchas ignore the tradeoffs of living an actual life.

>Sometimes your friends drag you places.

Sounds like a website is not your biggest problem then. Pick better friends or stop complaining, you sound like a whiner.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by mlrtime »

itslennysfault wrote: post #262
treenode wrote: post #179

Fun rant to read, but this is an entitled view. Not everyone has to have a website, or has to care about democratising the internet. If you don't want to do business with them just because you shun platforms, that's up to you. They may be doing just fine without your patronage.

> If you don't want to do business with them just because you shun platforms I don't do business with them because I can't access their hours, menu, services, etc... I've had this happen a few times. I'm not avoiding these businesses because I'm a snob. It's because I literally can't access the information. So, I go back to google and find a business that provides the information I need to decide if the business meet…

You can't even find a phone #? How about calling and asking? How do you know this place even exists without any information?

This is the opposite of old man yelling at clouds, it's young people complaining about the dumbest shit.

If the article writer is reading this, I feel the opposite. No, I don't want 1000 different websites. I like to use consolidated feeds.

No More Websites!

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by pibaker »

markdown wrote: post #165
ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #58

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Squarespace made a business simplifying all that. It's expensive but there are templates and it had a WYSIWYG editor.

Ridiculously expensive. The cost of hosting a mom-and-pop website is close to zero, and they charge $20/month or something like that.

Except Squarespace does not just sell hosting. Their main business is selling a CMS and website builder that is supposed to be easy enough for complete noobs to use.

You and I know how to build and host websites, ok, but it had likely taken us dozens if not hundreds of hours of learning everything between TCP/IP to ARIA attributes to get here. The average small business owner does not have this knowledge or the time to learn it. They keep Squarespace in business.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by markdown »

pibaker wrote: post #273
markdown wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ridiculously expensive. The cost of hosting a mom-and-pop website is close to zero, and they charge $20/month or something like that.

Except Squarespace does not just sell hosting. Their main business is selling a CMS and website builder that is supposed to be easy enough for complete noobs to use. You and I know how to build and host websites, ok, but it had likely taken us dozens if not hundreds of hours of learning everything between TCP/IP to ARIA attributes to get here. The average small business owner does not have this knowledge or the time…

> Their main business is selling a CMS and website builder that is supposed to be easy enough for complete noobs to use.

Yeah, like I said, it costs close to $0.

> The average small business owner does not have this knowledge or the time to learn it. They keep Squarespace in business.

My point is, SquareSpace could charge a fraction of what they do and still be rolling in cash. Instead they charge ridiculous fees that simply go to pay for more ads.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by mlrtime »

johnfn wrote: post #152
speedgoose wrote: post #140

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If one supports pedophiles and promote fascist speeches…

It is not "factual" to call these people pedophiles. Maybe you think they are bad for society. Maybe you think their websites are terrible. Maybe you don't like them. Those are all fine things, and you are free to say them! But to say they are factually a pedophile without evidence is not true. It only diminishes the quality of conversation.

I'm reading this line of conversations and I can tell you, you're wasting your time.

There is NO convincing these people of anything else, they will move the goal posts every time. I've been in these same conversations and it goes nowhere.

If you continue, it will move all the way to "If you're not out protesting, voting for X, you are in fact a fascist pedo yourself".

Even the mere fact that you question such line of thought... makes you a facist pedo.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by LatencyKills »

mlrtime wrote: post #272
itslennysfault wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you don't want to do business with them just because you shun platforms I don't do business with them because I can't access their hours, menu, services, etc... I've had this happen a few times. I'm not avoiding these businesses because I'm a snob. It's because I literally can't access the information. So, I go back to google and find a business that provides the information I need to decide if the business meet…

You can't even find a phone #? How about calling and asking? How do you know this place even exists without any information? This is the opposite of old man yelling at clouds, it's young people complaining about the dumbest shit. If the article writer is reading this, I feel the opposite. No, I don't want 1000 different websites. I like to use consolidated feeds. No More Websites!

> How do you know this place even exists without any information?

You want to find an antique book store in another state. How do you find it? You search the web. And what information bubbles to the top of the search results? Answer: businesses with websites.

If you are a business owner, you will lose customers without a website, because that is how most people will find you.

You might not like it... but that is the reality.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by type0 »

jstanley wrote: post #194
ehnto wrote: post #172

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I often turn to the saying "Rich people don't talk to robots". Time poor people want things done for them not by them. The agency of action needs to be delegated. Just because Flight Centre can automatically line up your flights for you, doesn't mean they want to. Time poor people still don't have time to go through that nor do they want to. They ask their assistant to do it, their assistant knows them well and fills…

If you're time-poor maybe you're not as rich as you think. The richest person I know talks to robots all the time.

So what, the richest person I know talks to DMT jesters, it doesn't make it good.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by dirkc »

Yes, you should have a website if you have a business or you wish to maintain any public footprint on the internet.

But it is both simple and complicated to setup a website these days.

For a technical audience there are great tools/options to choose from. You can build a rock solid website serving tons of traffic using 3rd party hosting for cheap. But, there are lots of options and as a geek it's easy to get rabbit-holed in the process.

For non-technical users it's similar, many solutions that require minimal technical knowledge. But the technical knowledge is very leaky and most providers border on landlords seeking to extract their rent while holding users hostage.

I'm working on something small in a specific niche aimed at non-technical users. I worry a lot that I don't fully understand what keeps people from building their own site?

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by pibaker »

markdown wrote: post #275
pibaker wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except Squarespace does not just sell hosting. Their main business is selling a CMS and website builder that is supposed to be easy enough for complete noobs to use. You and I know how to build and host websites, ok, but it had likely taken us dozens if not hundreds of hours of learning everything between TCP/IP to ARIA attributes to get here. The average small business owner does not have this knowledge or the time…

> Their main business is selling a CMS and website builder that is supposed to be easy enough for complete noobs to use. Yeah, like I said, it costs close to $0. > The average small business owner does not have this knowledge or the time to learn it. They keep Squarespace in business. My point is, SquareSpace could charge a fraction of what they do and still be rolling in cash. Instead they charge ridiculous fees tha…

To think about this from another angle, imagine yourself as a worker selling your labor in exchange for money. Would you voluntarily negotiate a pay cut just because you can charge a fraction of what you do and still swim in cash, or would you take as much your company is willing to pay you to work there? If your answer is no, then why should a company selling a product act any differently?

If squarespace following free market 101 upsets you so much, maybe you should start a squarespace competitor and charge whatever you think is a fair price. If what you said is true then you should be able to undercut squarespace by a huge margin and still make a profit. Give it a try and tell us how it goes.

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