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Guess that serves as a signal that this move from Kagi isn't so bad, if typos is the biggest and greatetst criticism you can come up with as a reply.
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Well, good for you, I guess. But for the rest of us who use the Assistant this would be a net downgrade, AKA paying the same for less.
For the rest of us that deeply distrust and despise the anti-ethical and wasteful assistants is an upgrade.
Friendly reminder that you're not forced to use it. "I despise soccer, so soccer should disappear".
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#23The big advantage of this is that instead of getting commentariat feedback, you will see people’s wallet votes on whether they value kagi for being the best of like 6 options for search, or for being a distinctly middle of the pack option in a field of millions of thin llm wrappers.
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#24I admire and applaud Kagi for what they are trying to be. But on the AI front, the Assistant is simply worse than using for example Gemini or ChatGPT directly. It is slower, it cannot generate images etc.
That's why I don't think anybody is going to pay for the Assistant alone.
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Guess that serves as a signal that this move from Kagi isn't so bad, if typos is the biggest and greatetst criticism you can come up with as a reply.
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Ah, but only a truly great writer could have come up with:
> Start reading books or you're going to look stupid to the people around you
Wherein the prose wasn’t at all sloppy, the tautology was certainly intentional; the implied audience of “look stupid” could be to people entirely absent of the vicinity!
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Well, good for you, I guess. But for the rest of us who use the Assistant this would be a net downgrade, AKA paying the same for less.
For the rest of us that deeply distrust and despise the anti-ethical and wasteful assistants is an upgrade.
You haven't thought too hard about it then; Kagi is (in part) looking to get better margins on its AI spend here.
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#27I’ve used it quite a bit, but just as a natural language frontend to their search engine. I don’t see it as a true alternative to generic chat bots like Claude or ChatGPT, and certainly not a coding tool. I would likely not subscribe to Assistant.
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#28Good. I'm a paying user from day one, and I never used, nor want to see any AI features on my search engine. I'd use Google if I cared about any of that stuff. Honestly, I just want my money to be used to improve good old match-keywords-against-index search.
I happened to be checking out kagi just yesterday (as a first time costumer) and I can say the AI focus put me off it.
I was running away from the constant shoving of AI features by google, so most of their landing page advertising AI related stuff wasn't really selling it for me.
Totally anecdotal evidence, of course, but I'm sure I'm not the only one dropping off the funnel for that reason.
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#29Good. I'm a paying user from day one, and I never used, nor want to see any AI features on my search engine. I'd use Google if I cared about any of that stuff. Honestly, I just want my money to be used to improve good old match-keywords-against-index search.
They could use AI is to remove web pages with AI generated spam content in search results. I don't know how accurate that could work. For technical blogs there should be a lens that ranks GPG signed articles higher, is that even possible?
Re: Kagi is contemplating the removal of the assistant from its professional tier
#30I admire and applaud Kagi for what they are trying to be. But on the AI front, the Assistant is simply worse than using for example Gemini or ChatGPT directly. It is slower, it cannot generate images etc.
It is not worse I would say. It uses neutral system prompt by default, whereas Gemini and ChatGPT will please you too much to mislead you badly. Also the base search is much batter. You can control the search while with Gemini, for example, you can't.