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Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by jeremyjh »

xandrius wrote: post #151
cyberrock wrote: post #121

Maybe we're not going to the same places but "just having a website for rates and hours" is a SAT problem for salons/tattoo parlors. They need to know what you want and also show flattering photos of what they can do (and also comply with the growing mountain of privacy regulations), determine if you have any staff preferences and when staff is available for whatever you're requesting, and compute the available times…

I really thought the article was about personal websites like in the 90s, not bringing up hair salons as an example. A hair salon needs a presence on Google maps with a bunch of reviews and their rates and that's it. Sure they don't own it but until that works it works.

To make it easier for you, this is the third sentence in TFA:

> But still, please, if you are a business or an individual artist or creator, have a fucking website.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by silvestrov »

emaro wrote: post #241
happyraul wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I accept that as a software developer, I have a myopic view on it, but it doesn't have to be hard. - Get a domain name - Get a VPS with an nginx image pre-installed - Write a plain text file with the info you want shown (hours, contact info, etc...) Yeah it's not sexy, but it's a start and it can be changed when time and interest allows.

> Get a VPS with an nginx image pre-installed You probably already lost 90% of 'normies'. Most people won't be able to or willing to do that on their own. They could learn it of course, but they don't bother. https://xkcd.com/2501/

closer to 99.9%

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by soco »

avhception wrote: post #208
Gigachad wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t help but think what this means is just that the menu isn’t that’s important as a marketing tool. If having an up to date website and menu resulted in a noticeable boost in business, every restaurant would have it. Average person either finds the place through google maps or a TikTok video, checks a few photos of the food or venue, then goes. Doesn’t matter what the exact menu is because there are plenty of op…

We usually order by phone, then drive by and pick up the food. Can't do that w/o a menu. The solution is usually to take a printed menu with you when you're there. But that's a chicken-and-egg problem!

Is that a "restaurant" then? Your use case means a kitchen which indeed needs a menu. But dining is something else, so we cannot compare.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by zjp »

jrflowers wrote: post #236
zjp wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As God said to Abraham. What illuminating advice.

Wait if you knew that, was this > Making you say this stuff is a tiny, petty act of domination. An intentional lie? I’m trying to imagine going from “the crux of my problem is that they force you to do that” to “obviously they don’t force you to do anything” that quickly. Did you ever even call a cookie a bitch?

Wait no, I see what’s happening. I am sorry. Deeply and I mean it. I was cruel to you. When a person does what you just did it is itself typically a dominance move. Those questions scream passive aggression. They are too close too early to be anything else. I read concern trolling. I read elaboration as escalation. I missed confusion and concern. And I was drunk on how annoying I found that to be, because getting into it on a forum can be thrilling. And when you replied to something so simple and dripping with sarcasm with complete earnestness, it snapped me out of my stupor, and made our conversation clear. Yes, I have called a cookie a basic bitch. I found that somewhat grating. It is conceptually true that you could avoid it. There are social pressures that disincentivize avoiding it. Everything else is drama and joke and rhetorical flourish. Recast in this light, I am embarrassed by what I have said to you. We have barely been speaking the same language because the language is the layers as much as the words.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by raincole »

pacifika wrote: post #117
raincole wrote: post #97

It's great in principle. However, in the past decade I've never visited even one single restaurant's website. I just check menus and phone numbers on google map. I trust google map photos (not saying they're 100% reliable) much more than a site owned by the restaurant's owner anyway.

And where does Google map get it’s information?

Mostly uploaded from users.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by cucumber3732842 »

Arainach wrote: post #14

Someone wrote and deleted a comment saying > I don't get it. LLMs are supposed to have 100% bridged this gap from "normie" to "DIY website." What's missing? This is an all too common thought process among technologists, so: Where to even start? Well, let's start that every single "AI" company is massively overhyping everything to try to avoid any unfortunate realizations about the emperor's clothes regarding their Ca…

Part of the problem is that there's no accepted standards for the minimum website worth making. This is very much a fault of the "website people" because they don't want to sell you a five page static site with the most complex feature being a php script that runs a couple for loops to put formatting around images and text.

Other than basic description and contact info that's all 99% of small businesses need (as evidenced by the fact that they use social media in exactly that way)

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by nandomrumber »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #239
jstanley wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're time-poor maybe you're not as rich as you think. The richest person I know talks to robots all the time.

Nah, they're right. In fact, "self-service" is one of the biggest value transfers from people to capital owners, a society-wide "fast one" the computing industry pulled over everyone. It's cool that you can do something yourself with a computer, whether it's ordering food or picking clothes or booking a trip. But, market doing market things, that can quickly became a have to , which is much less cool. It's a problem…

Correct.

The smartest people in academia get promoted to positions that used to come with administrative staff.

Now they’re expected to do all of that with a computer, which is easy right?

So now they spend 30% or more of their time administrationating their position, rather than delegating those duties to their admin staff.

That’s less time teaching and innovating.

Meanwhile, the increase in administration costs of learning institutions has massively outpaced all other costs as a fraction of total.

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by techterrier »

72deluxe wrote: post #206
techterrier wrote: post #67

Good idea, I did just such a thing myself, deleting all my socials and only posting my photos to my own website: https://dombarker.co.uk/ Was fun to make 'just a website' for a change too.

I have done the same, but your website is really nice! And your photos are lovely. I like how you've indicated which cameras and gear you use for certain trips. That 600mm Sony lens must be fun to carry around. I used to have a Tamron 150-600mm lens for my Nikon, but my wife said it looked ridiculous, so I got rid of it. So now I'm mostly on M43 for portability.

I dont think its too bad! I have it on a peak design strap and have it on my back diagonally. It probably does look ridiculous, but im sure them camo outfit is just as bad as the camera!

Yes the OM-System stuff is awesome, i think its the only thing that would tempt me away from Sony

the camera data is all in the EXIF so it was pretty easy to do. Good olde CRUD apps are a joy to build now!

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by techterrier »

WickyNilliams wrote: post #214
techterrier wrote: post #67

Good idea, I did just such a thing myself, deleting all my socials and only posting my photos to my own website: https://dombarker.co.uk/ Was fun to make 'just a website' for a change too.

Beautiful photos! And the site is very nice looking too . Can I ask what you do wrt the photo storage for your site? I'm looking to get back into photography and don't use Instagram etc, so want somewhere to post. Wondering how I might set up my own site for this purpose. Thanks

thank you very much :)

I use google cloud buckets for the raw storage, and then Imagekit as a CDN / transform layer (to prevent direct access and to crop/resize etc).

the rest of if it is a nextjs app router jobby. All your regular LLM's will be able to generate one of these for you quite straightfowardly

Re: Have a fucking website

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Post by mft_ »

This is kinda why the (fucking) platforms that you hate exist.

Small business wants a presence on the internet for reasons.

Originally, small business would have to pay $$$ to engage an expert, who will assist them in creating a website, hosting it, keeping it secure, keeping it up to date, figuring out the SEO to make it findable, etc.

It's obvious given 3s of thought that this sucks for a non-technical small business owner and can be optimised, so someone creates a platform to enable non-technical small business owners to do most of this without the cost/hassle of dealing with experts and owning the website themselves. This gets you to somewhere like MySpace, Wix, Squarespace, Google Sites, even Blogger, etc. But of course, such offerings aren't stable - they change, fail, or enshittify over time.

Facebook also sees an opportunity, and businesses start creating their own Facebook pages. Easy, and maybe even great for a while; except you're even more locked into the platform, only people who use Facebook can engage with you, and then trends move on and Facebook is less popular with your customer base than it once was.

You also want more of a visual presence to show off your cupcakes, or whatever. So an Instagram page.

TL;DR: there's no perfect solution for non-techies with a business. You either have a fucking website with all of the cost, hassle, and friction that comes with that, or you choose one of platforms that simplifies this but comes with unpredictable downsides over time.

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