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Re: My IQ

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Post by frooxie »

Shenglong wrote: post #26
DanBC wrote: post #11

I'm keen to know what the research is about cleverness and overthinking and multiple choice questions. One of the most intelligent people I know IRL has trouble with the UK driving licence theory questions because she very rapidly provides 6 correct answers, and then has to try to detangle her correct answers from the choices. I suspect that she'd do better if she tried when she was drunk (not the practical!!) becaus…

It might not be that she's overthinking--it could just be that the test-writers don't have as much education/intelligence. I use ad-hominems sparingly, so let me offer a specific example for the beginner's license test in Halifax, NS, Canada: In cold conditions, which of the following freeze before the others? 1. Bridges 2. Overpasses 3. Shaded Areas 4. All of the above I wasn't entirely sure what a "shaded area" was…

A bridge doesn't have to be anywhere near water. I would have answered "Shaded Areas" - why wouldn't a bridge or an overpass that's lit by the sun keep warm longer than an area that's in the shade?

Re: My IQ

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Post by mattdeboard »

robbiep wrote: post #187
anothermachine wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you'll find that Tanya Khovanova is in easily the top 0.1% of any general intelligence test you'd choose.

so she's only 1 in 1000?

Yes, that is what 0.1% means. Here is a good explanation of decimal fraction notation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal#Decimal_fractions

Re: My IQ

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Post by nitrogen »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #200
FaceKicker wrote: post #141

> But the biggest problem was that the idea of crossing the odd object out seems very strange to me in general. What is the odd object out in this list? > Cow, hen, pig, sheep. > The standard answer is supposed to be hen, as it is the only bird. But that is not the only possible correct answer. For example, pig is the only one whose meat is not kosher. And, look, sheep has five letters while the rest have three. Thes…

> I would guess that your ability to correctly answer an "ambiguous" question like that measures your ability to effectively communicate with other humans So it measures how good you are at not thinking outside of the box? ;)

I would put it as measuring one's ability to determine the most salient category from the perspective of the person asking the question. In the case of the farm animal question, the context of the question implies the criteria that should be used to determine which is different.

Re: My IQ

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Post by samspot »

paisawalla wrote: post #2

Great insight. Regarding Mensa itself, or any claims to intellectual superiority: one of the big lessons of my life has been that being intelligent has no intrinsic value. If you are unable to manifest your intelligence in a way that can substantially (disproportionate to your effort) improve your life or the lives of others, then your mind doesn't matter. It has no impact in the world, and I am not the first person…

> being intelligent has no intrinsic value

Thinking about this the other day, I was noticing that many people of great intelligence act as though it is a free pass to not putting forward much effort. Similarly they may neglect to pay attention to others who they regard as less intelligent than them (often their teachers or professors).

Re: My IQ

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Post by SparrowOS »

Let's ask God about IQ.

What's His definition or test of IQ like?

God says...

punished by the judges.

31:12 For it is a fire that consumeth to destruction, and would root out all mine increase.

31:13 If I did despise the cause of my manservant or of my maidservant, when they contended with me; 31:14 What then shall I do when God riseth up? and when he visiteth, what shall I answer him? 31:15 Did not he that made me in the womb make him? and did not one fashion us in the womb? 31:16 If I have withheld the poor from their desire, or have caused the eyes of the widow to fail; 31:17 Or have eaten my morsel myself alone, and the fatherless hath not eaten thereof; 31:18 (For from my youth he was brought up with me, as with a father, and I have guided her from my mother's womb;) 31:19 If I have seen any perish for want of clothing, or any poor without covering; 31:20 If his loins have not blessed me, and if he were not warmed with the fleece of my sheep; 31:21 If I have lifted up my hand against the fatherless, when I saw my help in the gate: 31:22 Then let mine arm fall from my shoulder blade, and mine arm be broken from the bone.

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A sheep gives wool. That's God's answer.

An egg is not a womb.

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pork, beef, fish, liver

I said "liver". Answer was "fish" because not meat.

Re: My IQ

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Post by [deleted] »

chiph wrote: post #22

> > Cow, hen, pig, sheep. > The standard answer is supposed to be hen, as it is the only bird. I thought "It's the only one that goes around on two legs." And then: "It's the only one that reproduces via eggs." Maybe not the right answer for the "right" reason, but works... But then, as I have gotten older, my IQ is probably half what it was when I was tested as a teen (not a candidate for Mensa, sorry) Probably beca…

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Re: My IQ

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Post by kamaal »

paisawalla wrote: post #2

Great insight. Regarding Mensa itself, or any claims to intellectual superiority: one of the big lessons of my life has been that being intelligent has no intrinsic value. If you are unable to manifest your intelligence in a way that can substantially (disproportionate to your effort) improve your life or the lives of others, then your mind doesn't matter. It has no impact in the world, and I am not the first person…

If your success depends on impacting peoples life through your work, then intelligence isn't even relevant to the discussion of success.

Re: My IQ

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Post by moconnor »

FaceKicker wrote: post #224
gurkendoktor wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I would guess that your ability to correctly answer an "ambiguous" question like that measures your ability to effectively communicate with other humans So it measures how good you are at not thinking outside of the box? ;)

Exactly. But I would say that "thinking inside of the box" is actually an incredibly important skill in practical situations. Probably 99+% of any functioning adult's thinking is "inside-the-box" (I realize that this is sort of a nebulous/meaningless statement, sorry). Things that we don't even think about, like looking both ways before crossing the street or watching our step as we get off the bus are all examples o…

Not so much thinking inside or outside "the" box, but being able to think inside somebody else's.

Re: My IQ

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Post by kamaal »

siglesias wrote: post #175
telemachos wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please look again at your original post. This whole business about "at one point in their life" simply isn't there. You didn't say those words. Just the opposite: in one of the later paragraphs, you talk about people "who lived and died in dire poverty". You seem to be moving the goalposts of the argument. Either that or your first post was very unclear. > in Einstein's and Wittgenstein's case, during significant por…

You guys are both right. The point really is that prior to hitting a career grand slam (a Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, a "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies") one can find oneself in a menial job where one is looked upon as an unfulfilled genius. There's nothing to say that this Target employee isn't writing the next great American novel in his spare time. In summary, the "menial" job in and of itself should…

Also most people even though hit a career grand never get recognized for it.

Gandhi never won the Nobel prize for peace, Just imagine- Gandhi!!! Although there is hardly anyone in the past century who did explicitly more for peace than he did. He not just preached, but demonstrated an entire moment for independence of India and even succeeded all on non violence.

Not that he complained about it. But the world never recognized it at the time.

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