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Honda is killing its EVs

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Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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> you can put panels on your rooftop and slow charge it during the day The real Mad Max will be roaming the apocalyptic wasteland in a Kia EV5.

Until the ICCU fails, at which point you're toast.

That was an EV6 issue, is it still present on the EV5?

Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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A friend of mine has a dozen panels in central France and pretty much provides all the energy for his Kia eNiro. He reckons the payback time is under five years.

Panels on the rooftop of the car...

When did I say on the rooftop of a car? There’s level 1 that could plug into an house outlet and level 2 from 220v. House charges the car and solar provides power to the house.

Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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In Shenzhen for a tech meeting. The streetscape is quieter, despite high traffic levels and I hear not only MORE birdsong, but the birds do more complex songlines. The air is clean. For sure some of this is because it's a coastal city and has fresh sea breezes, but I've been in other Chinese coastal cities in times past and the air was significantly less clean. There are social upsides for an almost-all-EV city. This…

Mexico City needs this badly. It would be beautiful if it wasn't for the smog and noise of traffic.

Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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I think Japanese automakers by sticking to ICE vehicles have admitted defeat - that they no longer have the engineering prowess to compete. they dominated in the era of small engines. with EVs - the Chinese have run away with the stick & sadly no one is catching up. I wish the Japanese made good EVs - Germans are the only ones besides the Chinese making decent EVs

> they no longer have the engineering prowess to compete

That's not nearly the case. They have made one of best EVs back in years, but decided to focus on hybrids. And that makes total sense.

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> It makes really good engines, and that's starting to matter less and less. Maybe. But here's the thing... most cars today feel completely lifeless. Honda knows how to build an engine and wrap it in a car that actually makes you feel something. That still matters. Anyone here driven an S2000? It's still the best car I've ever owned. Light, raw, grippy, and genuinely fun -- every drive felt like an event, not just tr…

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Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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>Heck you can put panels on your rooftop and slow charge it during the day. The breakeven for this is so bad that it's only worth it for the gullible "wow" factor from the general public asking about it.

A friend of mine has a dozen panels in central France and pretty much provides all the energy for his Kia eNiro. He reckons the payback time is under five years.

This is exactly what I meant. Thanks.

Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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post #328

I think Japanese automakers by sticking to ICE vehicles have admitted defeat - that they no longer have the engineering prowess to compete. they dominated in the era of small engines. with EVs - the Chinese have run away with the stick & sadly no one is catching up. I wish the Japanese made good EVs - Germans are the only ones besides the Chinese making decent EVs

Korea makes pretty good EVs as well

Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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Road particles, brakes and tires dominate that massively. https://www.eiturbanmobility.eu/press-corner/nees-are-the-ma...

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Maybe 'Dwarfed'?

Dominated to the point of insignificance?

Anyway, did you understand it?

Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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>you're buying a vehicle that already has the capabilities, but are disabled, then paying rent (or a fee) to turn them on. This is very much not what "software-defined vehicle" means which itself is very much not the same thing as EVs. It's possible to criticize the explotative business practices you mentioned (or bad UI practices like moving everything to a touchscreen instead of physical buttons) without linking th…

That's all motherhood and apple pie, but I'm sorry: the reality that we live in and incentives at play are such that if a capability can be exploited, then it will be exploited to the detriment of the consumer. Full stop.

This is a classic example of slippery slope fallacy, and not in the spirit of intellectual curiosity for which this forum exists

Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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Smart doorbells and thermostats that upgraded in the night often became a nuisance or an expensive brick. But a faulty software upgrade on a car can kill you and others. Car company execs need to take a chill pill followed by a reality serum. Monetizing subscription based basic features and delivering in-car advertising is the absolutely worst way to go. As consumers we need to stop buying into the bells, whistles an…

Or manufacturers should learn from Tesla. Did you know - if your Tesla shuts down (screen goes blank) you can still drive it! If done right, it works like magic.

I have had 3 software updates in 12 years of ownership of Tesla that bricked my car and require mobile service (twice) and tow (once) to resolve. tesla is probably better than most but far from perfect when it comes to this
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