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Honda is killing its EVs

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Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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Post by ahf8Aithaex7Nai »

tim-projects wrote: post #10

This doesn't mention motorcycles > For the fiscal year ended March 31, 2025 (FY2025), motorcycles accounted for about 17% of total revenue, while cars made up around 65%. I wonder what the plan is for motorcycles, where in much of Asia cars aren't really viable and there are no real competitors to Honda engine bikes.

Honda is launching the WN7 this year. It seems like a typical Honda motorcycle: not for those obsessed with specs, but definitely a solid and well-designed bike. If I were currently looking for a mid-sized electric motorcycle, this would be my top choice for the same reasons people choose Honda for gasoline-powered motorcycles.

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Post by bartvk »

tim-projects wrote: post #10

This doesn't mention motorcycles > For the fiscal year ended March 31, 2025 (FY2025), motorcycles accounted for about 17% of total revenue, while cars made up around 65%. I wonder what the plan is for motorcycles, where in much of Asia cars aren't really viable and there are no real competitors to Honda engine bikes.

Well, they just launched the Honda WN-7. It seems to be a commuter and fun bike. It has a limited range, so it's not a touring motorcycle but it does have fast-charging.

I watched the reviews on YouTube, and they're all quite favorable.

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Post by jmclnx »

Worldwide ? Seems so from the article.

But my guess is maybe Honda will wait for Tesla or another US based auto company with EVs to fail and buy that company. Seems that is how large companies do "innovation" these days.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

GianFabien wrote: post #30

Smart doorbells and thermostats that upgraded in the night often became a nuisance or an expensive brick. But a faulty software upgrade on a car can kill you and others. Car company execs need to take a chill pill followed by a reality serum. Monetizing subscription based basic features and delivering in-car advertising is the absolutely worst way to go. As consumers we need to stop buying into the bells, whistles an…

Yeah, the only updates I want are map data for a GPS. And even then, go ahead and leave out the GPS and give me a dumb screen to attach my phone to.

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Post by outside2344 »

tim-tday wrote: post #2

The wind is just blowing back towards internal combustion for the moment. A couple years and they will shift again. Killing the whole research project would be dumb. Killing current models makes some sense.

The wind is actually blowing towards EVs.

China: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/electric-vehicle-sales-i... Europe: https://eleport.com/ev-sales-in-europe/ USA: https://www.statista.com/outlook/mmo/electric-vehicles/unite...

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Post by viccis »

Denatonium wrote: post #44

Calling the Prologue "Honda's EV" feels like a huge stretch. The Prologue was a rebadged GM vehicle that served strictly as a compliance car for meeting CAFE standards. Now that the CAFE standards have been rendered toothless, there's no longer a need for that deal.

>Now that the CAFE standards have been rendered toothless

Can you elaborate on this? I'd love to have a cheap small truck like they used to make, but CAFE largely killed those.

Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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Post by jopsen »

mono442 wrote: post #4

ICE cars are still the majority of new cars being sold and it'll still take a while for EVs to become more popular.

That will change.

And it must, environmental concerns aside nobody wants to be beholden to oil prices ;)

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Post by moepstar »

tim-projects wrote: post #41
SR2Z wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, e-bikes with thumb throttles are so good that the only reason they haven't already supplanted motorcycles is that there are ten bajillion old unkillable motorcycle engines in use. It's a shame that US law doesn't have a nice in-between that would slot these bikes between proper e-bikes and motorcycles.

Ebikes definitely aren't a viable alternative in Asia yet. Most Asian countries either have no charge stations or very few. Range doesn't compare with gas motorcycles. Hundreds of millions of motorcycles are still in active use with no real incentive to change

> Most Asian countries either have no charge stations or very few

I think Vinfast would like to have a word with you…

Re: Honda is killing its EVs

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Post by beaviskhan »

johanvts wrote: post #26
twelve40 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well China debate aside, where are they? i've been dabbling in electrics for over a decade now, on the lower range they are still 30% more expensive than gas cars. Surely someone, anyone outside of China could have done one cheaper by now? Leaf came out 16 years ago and they still can't get it under $30k?

I assume you are coming from a US perspective, because smaller economical EVs are available in europe and dominate in asia. America car companies have managed to make a 50k+ truck the average new car purchase. They aren’t going to kill that golden calf voluntarily. Instead they have managed to lock out the competition. Why Musk elected to build another truck instead of the promised model 2 is beyond me. Besides, with…

Don't forget maintenance costs in the TCO calculation too. Transmissions, fuel pumps, timing belts, radiators (mostly), fuel injectors, emissions systems, etc are all out of the picture in an EV. Servicing those things may be infrequent but is often extremely expensive.
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