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Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by hamdingers »

wiether wrote: post #165
hamdingers wrote: post #92

I'm a Kagi search/assistant user and advocate but the "small web" product is a frustrating misnomer. To me the small web is any little website that was created to be interesting rather than to sell me something. That includes stuff like neocities, "shrine" type sites, single purpose sites, fandom portals, web experiments, etc. Unfortunately Kagi's definition of "small web" is: blog or webcomic. You must have an RSS f…

Same feeling here Heavy Kagi user and the idea behind small web was appealing; but how its implemented don't click with me Their rules excludes an absolute gem like https://www.sheldonbrown.com/ which is, to me, the essence of what we could call the "small web". Each times the topic pops up, I try a few random ones and never found anything interesting.

Expert/auteur websites like Sheldon Brown's (or, one of my favorites, Ask Aaron https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/FAQ.html) are the pinnacle of what's possible with the small web. Today this kind of info ends up in an ad-ridden hosted wiki or locked away in an unsearchable discord.

There's also novelties like https://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/, this probably hasn't been updated in a decade but that makes it no less interesting.

Then there's exceptionally cool demos like https://thelongestyard.link/q3a-demo/. This sort of thing just doesn't fit in a "blog" format unless you're writing a blog about how you built it and linking out to it.

If anyone knows of a directory of sites like these (preferably with a shuffle option) I'd love to hear about it (and contribute)!

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by Computer0 »

ArtificeAccount wrote: post #31

I've been using the Kagi search engine for months now and I'm not impressed. I bought into it because there were a lot of posts saying that it was "just like old Google" but this has not been my experience. It's the same as new Google, you can type in what you're looking for exactly and you'll get random sort-of related websites. I remember when you could half-remember a comment from a website, type that into Google,…

I am quite happy with my Kagi search results. The biggest weakness I have noticed in my few months using it is that it is a terrible experience for shopping. I believe this is due to similar factors that make it feel like a less spammy ad-ridden experience overall. It works well enough for product research, but comparing across product vendor's product pages tends to suck. I have to use a specific lens to shop for Raspberry Pi or Microcontrollers for example.

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by ArtificeAccount »

monkey_monkey wrote: post #130
ArtificeAccount wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the same way. I'm probably going to end my subscription at some point, but right now the effort involved is what's keeping me with Kagi.

"the effort involved" Feels like your comment saying it was too much effort to cancel Kagi took more effort than cancelling Kagi.

I think you're right, haha

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by ArtificeAccount »

Falimonda wrote: post #149
ArtificeAccount wrote: post #31

I've been using the Kagi search engine for months now and I'm not impressed. I bought into it because there were a lot of posts saying that it was "just like old Google" but this has not been my experience. It's the same as new Google, you can type in what you're looking for exactly and you'll get random sort-of related websites. I remember when you could half-remember a comment from a website, type that into Google,…

Why have you used it for months now if you're not impressed?

Because I'm too lazy to unsubscribe. It's cheap so it's not high on my list of things to do, lol.

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by viccis »

hamdingers wrote: post #92

I'm a Kagi search/assistant user and advocate but the "small web" product is a frustrating misnomer. To me the small web is any little website that was created to be interesting rather than to sell me something. That includes stuff like neocities, "shrine" type sites, single purpose sites, fandom portals, web experiments, etc. Unfortunately Kagi's definition of "small web" is: blog or webcomic. You must have an RSS f…

This is just a blog ring.

I would also love to go back to Geocities style web interaction, but the medium is the message, and the way the Internet has evolved as a medium means that people don't naturally interact with it in a way that supports regression to that era. Attempts to force it like neocities have a hyperreal quality to them.

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by tty456 »

hamdingers wrote: post #181
wiether wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same feeling here Heavy Kagi user and the idea behind small web was appealing; but how its implemented don't click with me Their rules excludes an absolute gem like https://www.sheldonbrown.com/ which is, to me, the essence of what we could call the "small web". Each times the topic pops up, I try a few random ones and never found anything interesting.

Expert/auteur websites like Sheldon Brown's (or, one of my favorites, Ask Aaron https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/FAQ.html ) are the pinnacle of what's possible with the small web. Today this kind of info ends up in an ad-ridden hosted wiki or locked away in an unsearchable discord. There's also novelties like https://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/ , this probably hasn't been updated in a decade but that makes…

Sheldon Brown's content is great, but is it ironic that the first thing you see on his site is a Google banner ad?

Understandably, he'd like to earn money on his content and I see no problem with that. But for me to visit his site and have Google add yet another tracking event to their "interest pile" about me (I guess i'm in the market for bikes now?) is a bit off putting.

He can't be making more than a few bucks a month through that single ad, right?

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by abletonlive »

hamdingers wrote: post #181
wiether wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same feeling here Heavy Kagi user and the idea behind small web was appealing; but how its implemented don't click with me Their rules excludes an absolute gem like https://www.sheldonbrown.com/ which is, to me, the essence of what we could call the "small web". Each times the topic pops up, I try a few random ones and never found anything interesting.

Expert/auteur websites like Sheldon Brown's (or, one of my favorites, Ask Aaron https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/FAQ.html ) are the pinnacle of what's possible with the small web. Today this kind of info ends up in an ad-ridden hosted wiki or locked away in an unsearchable discord. There's also novelties like https://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/ , this probably hasn't been updated in a decade but that makes…

> are the pinnacle of what's possible with the small web

if this is the pinnacle then I want nothing to do with it.

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by hamdingers »

tty456 wrote: post #186
hamdingers wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expert/auteur websites like Sheldon Brown's (or, one of my favorites, Ask Aaron https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/FAQ.html ) are the pinnacle of what's possible with the small web. Today this kind of info ends up in an ad-ridden hosted wiki or locked away in an unsearchable discord. There's also novelties like https://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/ , this probably hasn't been updated in a decade but that makes…

Sheldon Brown's content is great, but is it ironic that the first thing you see on his site is a Google banner ad? Understandably, he'd like to earn money on his content and I see no problem with that. But for me to visit his site and have Google add yet another tracking event to their "interest pile" about me (I guess i'm in the market for bikes now?) is a bit off putting. He can't be making more than a few bucks a…

I truly had no idea, I guess I've always had an ad blocker.

He's been dead since 2008, so I assume the banner ad keeps the lights on in the absence of his income and input.

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by casenmgreen »

tty456 wrote: post #186
hamdingers wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expert/auteur websites like Sheldon Brown's (or, one of my favorites, Ask Aaron https://runamok.tech/AskAaron/FAQ.html ) are the pinnacle of what's possible with the small web. Today this kind of info ends up in an ad-ridden hosted wiki or locked away in an unsearchable discord. There's also novelties like https://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/ , this probably hasn't been updated in a decade but that makes…

Sheldon Brown's content is great, but is it ironic that the first thing you see on his site is a Google banner ad? Understandably, he'd like to earn money on his content and I see no problem with that. But for me to visit his site and have Google add yet another tracking event to their "interest pile" about me (I guess i'm in the market for bikes now?) is a bit off putting. He can't be making more than a few bucks a…

He died about ten years ago.

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by beAbU »

dethos wrote: post #105
yashasolutions wrote: post #29

StumbleUpon is that you? Jokes aside, it's really nice and I can totally see becoming addictive. Kudos to Kagi team for an other user oriented product. (as a side note, I am using Kagi daily and i didn't know about this tool)

Yes, SU was fascinating at the time. I kind of like this style of exploring the web; it gets a bit addictive, you spend hours on it but end up finding interesting content and other stuff that you wouldn't otherwise.

Man, I wasted days on SU. It was incredibly addictive in a way that did not feel unhealthy.
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