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Re: Java 26 is here

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Post by pjmlp »

wiseowise wrote: post #2

Android as always in shambles. Shame that neither Google, nor ecosystem cares about Java because they’ve bought JetBrains kopium.

Google basically played a J++ with Android Java, with Kotlin as their .NET/C#.

At least they are forced to partially update Android Java, now Java 17 subset, so that Kotlin can keep up with was is mostly deployed at Maven Central.

Re: Java 26 is here

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Post by haolez »

I was pretty surprised when I learned recently that the Java alternative for green threads doesn't use colored functions. It put Java in a higher place in my perception.

Re: Java 26 is here

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Post by xxs »

pjmlp wrote: post #3
wiseowise wrote: post #2

Android as always in shambles. Shame that neither Google, nor ecosystem cares about Java because they’ve bought JetBrains kopium.

Google basically played a J++ with Android Java, with Kotlin as their .NET/C#. At least they are forced to partially update Android Java, now Java 17 subset, so that Kotlin can keep up with was is mostly deployed at Maven Central.

That's a proper late 90s reference, props!

Re: Java 26 is here

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Post by vyskocilm »

JEP 504: Remove the Applet API

Glad to see this being removed. Java plugins especially on Linux were awful and required by tons of corporate stuff. Anyone remeber IcedTea Web? A functional and opensource Java plugin and Java Webstart implementation?

Re: Java 26 is here

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Post by dmos62 »

haolez wrote: post #4

I was pretty surprised when I learned recently that the Java alternative for green threads doesn't use colored functions. It put Java in a higher place in my perception.

What are colored functions?

Re: Java 26 is here

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Post by jauco »

dmos62 wrote: post #7
haolez wrote: post #4

I was pretty surprised when I learned recently that the Java alternative for green threads doesn't use colored functions. It put Java in a higher place in my perception.

What are colored functions?

https://journal.stuffwithstuff.com/2015/02/01/what-color-is-...

In this context: functions anotated with async

Re: Java 26 is here

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Post by cogman10 »

pjmlp wrote: post #3
wiseowise wrote: post #2

Android as always in shambles. Shame that neither Google, nor ecosystem cares about Java because they’ve bought JetBrains kopium.

Google basically played a J++ with Android Java, with Kotlin as their .NET/C#. At least they are forced to partially update Android Java, now Java 17 subset, so that Kotlin can keep up with was is mostly deployed at Maven Central.

Pretty sure they did a J# ;). But I agree that Kotlin is their C#.

The JDK and JVM has advanced so fast while android has been lagging. It's pretty frustrating, especially because google has been so slow to pull in changes from later java versions.

A part of me wishes that android would just dump their hokey dalvik, ART, and other BS and just use the OpenJDK or a fork of the OpenJDK with whatever special sauce they need. A lot of the project Leyden stuff lends itself nicely to maybe someday being able to run real java on android.

Edit: Apparently android is forking OpenJDK, since Android 7.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Nougat

Re: Java 26 is here

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Post by freedomben »

As someone who has been out of the Java world for many years, but recently forced back into it due to Android dev requirements, Post lawsuit, what is the relationship between Android (Google) and Java now? When can we expect 26 on Android? On that note, why is Android always so far behind? Is it because Kotlin is primary or is it deeper? Did the lawsuit play a role?
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