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> My carrier detects and throttles hotspot traffic by measuring packets TTL, so I tweaks the router's iptables to dodge that. Could you elaborate on this?
Sure, it's widely known. Default TTL is usually 64. Phone traffic TTL is 64. But when behind the phone-as-router/gateway, compy traffic TTL is...63!
Starlink Mini as a failover
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Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
#222Be aware of rain fade. Unit is only rated to operate up to 50 C Hail impact protection for antenna ?
I mean, if you’re planning on using it in Death Valley on a rainy day, sure, you might have some problems. Also it doesn’t brush your teeth for you.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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Some mobile phone providers check the packet TTL to limit tethering. Network packets commonly have start with default TTL values of 64, 128, or 255. Each hop in the network subtracts 1. When phone connects direct to carrier (cell tower, I assume) the carrier will see TTL of 64. A laptop tethered to a phone introduces a hop so laptop-to-phone TTL is 64, phone-to-carrier TTL is 63. Carriers can then limit bandwidth if…
Thank you for explaining this, I had always wondered how a carrier could tell a device was tethered if a router was not passing on tethered device details.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
#224A mobile failover would be cheaper and would give you better connectivity in heavy rain. A 4G dongle can be purchased for $15, rather than $200 for a Starlink Mini. Then, let's say your main internet source fails and you need to actually use the backup plan beyond the standby amount of 0.5 Mbps. That will cost you a minimum of $50 for Starlink, versus roughly $25 for a month of unlimited cell service. As for standby…
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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It's probably because usually normal people don't but routers because they get them included in their internet subscription. So the people buying them have a specific reason to that normal routers don't do
It's a travel router which power users buy to get good connectivity away from home and office. An hotel won't offer you that (and chances are that they'll try to rip you off on their wifi).
More common is that you use the travel router to connect to hotel WiFi and then share out that connection. It's slower than using directly, but it's great for family travel since you can name your travel SSID the same as your home network - all your usual devices will connect automatically, and will use any whole-connection VPN you have set up (most of the gl.inets will do Wireguard, OpenVPN, and Tailscale that I know of straight out of the box, and they will let you into luci or via SSH to configure the underlying OpenWRT directly for anything else). And, of course, it's just one device for hotels that try to limit the number of devices you use.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
#226I've just done something similar in response to a heavy storm that's taken out the fiber where I live (7 weeks now, still hasn't been reconnected). Starlink has been a life saver and works flawlessly (~200Mbps, Had to get this going quickly so used tplink gear as it was readily accessible and surprisingly it's worked quite well. Used an NX210 (for WiFi to house and the backup 4G sim). Connected the NX210's WAN to an…
you must be around leiria? :D
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
#227I also do this. Xfinity went out for a few hours earlier this month and Unifi failed over almost instantly, and within minutes we had high speed internet once I upgraded us. The standby mode would have been plenty for basic web browsing, too. $5/mo for pretty guaranteed connectivity, plus being able to take it around with me on travels is pretty awesome.
How likely is it that this $5 deal will continue in the future? It sounds like a no-brainer WAN backup option, are Starlink going to discontinue it when they realise that people are using it as such? Also, is this available globally or UK-only? I can't find any mention of it on the local Starlink site.
I don't see how this would be a bad deal for Starlink
It's in available on most plans in most locations, with some restrictions described here: https://starlink.com/ca/support/article/37bb3b47-9525-7224-5...
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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It's a travel router which power users buy to get good connectivity away from home and office. An hotel won't offer you that (and chances are that they'll try to rip you off on their wifi).
Assuming you can find an Ethernet port to supply it, that is. Most hotels don't make them easy to find and use, if they even have them. More common is that you use the travel router to connect to hotel WiFi and then share out that connection. It's slower than using directly, but it's great for family travel since you can name your travel SSID the same as your home network - all your usual devices will connect automat…
Also I can WireGuard back home automatically for select IP ranges (no need to configure WireGuard separately on many of my devices)
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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> If you realize how bad the people are, you can do something about it. The problem is you have no idea what people are invested in what companies. How do you know that when you shop at $friendlySustainableCompany that people like Musk do not have shares there?
I can only be responsible for what I'm aware of, or can reasonably be expected to be aware of. I, too, have a Starlink account for emergency backup service that I plan to switch over to Amazon LEO as soon as it's available. Lesser-evil principle at work again. Yes, there are things that aren't great about Amazon, but Amazon's practices are largely in sync with my capitalist values. Musk's businesses are also compatib…
Not a valid legal defence. I think we need to build tooling that makes moral stances like yours easier to adhere to, then see how people react when they realize just how impossible it is.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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I can only be responsible for what I'm aware of, or can reasonably be expected to be aware of. I, too, have a Starlink account for emergency backup service that I plan to switch over to Amazon LEO as soon as it's available. Lesser-evil principle at work again. Yes, there are things that aren't great about Amazon, but Amazon's practices are largely in sync with my capitalist values. Musk's businesses are also compatib…
> I can only be responsible for what I'm aware of, or can reasonably be expected to be aware of. Not a valid legal defence. I think we need to build tooling that makes moral stances like yours easier to adhere to, then see how people react when they realize just how impossible it is.
There are degrees of antisocial behavior, and there's a limit to what I will tolerate from others and indulge in myself. That limit is not zero, to be honest, but it's far from the standard set by Musk.