Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
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Re: Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
#2> WFH delivers more fertility impact than the entire U.S. early childhood spending apparatus, at zero taxpayer cost.
It's (mostly) free! The tech bros just have to get over their status and control issues about forcing workers back into the office. Can they? Remains to be seen.
Re: Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
#3> WFH delivers more fertility impact than the entire U.S. early childhood spending apparatus, at zero taxpayer cost. It's (mostly) free! The tech bros just have to get over their status and control issues about forcing workers back into the office. Can they? Remains to be seen.
I mean Zuckerberg renamed his company Meta, then forced everyone back into the office. So I'd say outlook not so good.
Re: Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
#4Unfortunately this is an argument from the wrong angle, because it assumes what the pronatalists 'mean' by their belief. It's the same way that arguing with Musk about being a free speech maximalist is fundamentally a failed argument, because he doesn't actually believe in free speech.
The silicon valley pronatalist stance is because they want to be patriarchs in full control of their family. They want absolute control over women and absolute control over their kids. Or they want to exert control over particular minority groups.
Re: Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
#5Unfortunately this is an argument from the wrong angle, because it assumes what the pronatalists 'mean' by their belief. It's the same way that arguing with Musk about being a free speech maximalist is fundamentally a failed argument, because he doesn't actually believe in free speech. The silicon valley pronatalist stance is because they want to be patriarchs in full control of their family. They want absolute contr…
> Unfortunately this is an argument from the wrong angle, because it assumes what the pronatalists 'mean' by their belief.
Thank goodness you didn't assume what they mean as well, then.
Re: Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
#6> WFH delivers more fertility impact than the entire U.S. early childhood spending apparatus, at zero taxpayer cost. It's (mostly) free! The tech bros just have to get over their status and control issues about forcing workers back into the office. Can they? Remains to be seen.
The tech bros are also funded by the tools of wfh
Re: Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
#7Unfortunately this is an argument from the wrong angle, because it assumes what the pronatalists 'mean' by their belief. It's the same way that arguing with Musk about being a free speech maximalist is fundamentally a failed argument, because he doesn't actually believe in free speech. The silicon valley pronatalist stance is because they want to be patriarchs in full control of their family. They want absolute contr…
> Unfortunately this is an argument from the wrong angle, because it assumes what the pronatalists 'mean' by their belief. Thank goodness you didn't assume what they mean as well, then.
I believe in, quite simply, the fact that their actions outline what they truly believe. Elon Musk said he was a pro gamer who was top of the ladder in Path of Exile 2, then he was found to be cheating having hired folks to play the game for him.
If someone calls themselves a free speech maximalist followed by banning people who criticize him, then he cannot by definition be a free speech maximalist.
Re: Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
#8Unfortunately this is an argument from the wrong angle, because it assumes what the pronatalists 'mean' by their belief. It's the same way that arguing with Musk about being a free speech maximalist is fundamentally a failed argument, because he doesn't actually believe in free speech. The silicon valley pronatalist stance is because they want to be patriarchs in full control of their family. They want absolute contr…
Correct. Pronatalism is a just a front, sometimes for pure racism. Remember that Musk grew up in Apartheid South Africa. They're worried about demographic shifts away from white dominance of the US.
Also, according to the article, Musk "called children and called declining birth rates a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming," which is not so much pro-natalism as it is dismissive of global warming, because Musk no longer cares about electric cars and has pivoted to ventures that are much less friendly to the environment such as AI and mass rocket launches.
Re: Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
#9Unfortunately this is an argument from the wrong angle, because it assumes what the pronatalists 'mean' by their belief. It's the same way that arguing with Musk about being a free speech maximalist is fundamentally a failed argument, because he doesn't actually believe in free speech. The silicon valley pronatalist stance is because they want to be patriarchs in full control of their family. They want absolute contr…
Do you think anti-natalism is or should be the default for humans?
Re: Silicon Valley's "Pronatalists" Killed WFH. The Strait of Hormuz Brought It Back
#10it'll be interesting to see how wfh and 4 day week policies play out in SEA, and that's more interesting than the domestic us conversation here really. If the us could follow suit we could probably do some great work on families but it seems very unlikely.